Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ZOE : GM data


(Predicted active cases / Estimated cases per million population locally / Both V yesterday)



New leader in the county - the borough that was long the best in GM.

TRAFFORD 1584 / 6764 V 1312 / 5603 - Rises into the highest watch zone and worse than both Bolton and Bury now.

Trafford today is the highest in the NW on Zoe. Only West Lancashire (area between Southport and Wigan) is alongside it in the highest watch zone on 572 / 5066




BURY though is down a lot to 763 / 4045 V 1100 / 5831 and half where it was 2 days agi. Which is good.

BOLTON also well down to 669 / 2362 V 1381 / 4874 yesterday.

MANCHESTER 1458 / 2675 V 972 / 1782 is UP quite a bit today. Overtakes Bolton as the case numbers have suggested it might be on the verge of doing in real numbers too.

WIGAN 524 / 1617 V 690 / 2130 - a fall here into the lowest watch tier.



GM now has MORE than half its 10 boroughs in the watch zone.


OLDHAM joins the lowest at 301 / 1287 V 55 / 235 yesterday - quite a large jump.
AND

STOCKPORT 398 / 1376 V 183 / 634 - does too with a result well in keeping with their case numbers for real over past few days. A doubling in a day.





So there are only three in GM now NOT in the Zoe watch zone:-

AND one of them is if you believe the Zoe numbers!

TAMESIDE - crazy numbers here again and Zoe seem to have given up on its guesstimate as it shows it would have leapt in one day from 132 / 589 to 3026 / 13, 522 - the highest in any UK borough in months if true. And by far the biggest single day jump.

I am pretty sure it isn't this and why they do not put it in a watch zone until they figure out why their data there is such a mess. But the reality is that almost certainly this too is up in the lower watch zone whatever true numbers it has. Tameside and Stockport as neighbour boroughs often follow one another.


So in reality only TWO GM Boroughs now not on Zoe watch lists and I would not bet on either of them avoiding doing so in coming days. Salford's numbers in real life especially are actually worse than Stockport's so these Zoe scores are a bit hard to explain. And Rochdale in real life and Zoe is close enough to enter tier one in a day.



ROCHDALE 117 / 535 V 128 / 584 - not changing much in these mid high numvers but edging down.

SALFORD 76 / 299 V 88 / 346 - happily another small fall the third in a row

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Starting to get the impression that due to our vaccination rates the Indian variant provides a spike but not a wave.
 
ZOE : GM data


(Predicted active cases / Estimated cases per million population locally / Both V yesterday)



New leader in the county - the borough that was long the best in GM.

TRAFFORD 1584 / 6764 V 1312 / 5603 - Rises into the highest watch zone and worse than both Bolton and Bury now.

Trafford today is the highest in the NW on Zoe. Only West Lancashire (area between Southport and Wigan) is alongside it in the highest watch zone on 572 / 5066




BURY though is down a lot to 763 / 4045 V 1100 / 5831 and half where it was 2 days agi. Which is good.

BOLTON also well down to 669 / 2362 V 1381 / 4874 yesterday.

MANCHESTER 1458 / 2675 V 972 / 1782 is UP quite a bit today. Overtakes Bolton as the case numbers have suggested it might be on the verge of doing in real numbers too.

WIGAN 524 / 1617 V 690 / 2130 - a fall here into the lowest watch tier.



GM now has MORE than half its 10 boroughs in the watch zone.


OLDHAM joins the lowest at 301 / 1287 V 55 / 235 yesterday - quite a large jump.
AND

STOCKPORT 398 / 1376 V 183 / 634 - does too with a result well in keeping with their case numbers for real over past few days. A doubling in a day.





So there are only three in GM now NOT in the Zoe watch zone:-

AND one of them is if you believe the Zoe numbers!

TAMESIDE - crazy numbers here again and Zoe seem to have given up on its guesstimate as it shows it would have leapt in one day from 132 / 589 to 3026 / 13, 522 - the highest in any UK borough in months if true. And by far the biggest single day jump.

I am pretty sure it isn't this and why they do not put it in a watch zone until they figure out why their data there is such a mess. But the reality is that almost certainly this too is up in the lower watch zone whatever true numbers it has. Tameside and Stockport as neighbour boroughs often follow one another.


So in reality only TWO GM Boroughs now not on Zoe watch lists and I would not bet on either of them avoiding doing so in coming days. Salford's numbers in real life especially are actually worse than Stockport's so these Zoe scores are a bit hard to explain. And Rochdale in real life and Zoe is close enough to enter tier one in a day.



ROCHDALE 117 / 535 V 128 / 584 - not changing much in these mid high numvers but edging down.

SALFORD 76 / 299 V 88 / 346 - happily another small fall the third in a row

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What the hell have they been doing in Trafford
 
Bank Holiday blow for Manchester bars and restaurants forced to close temporarily due to covid cases..ancoats NQ, gay village and deansgate affected
 
One of my grandchildren got sent home from school for the 3rd time because there was someone in his class tested positive. My daughter had booked a Blackpool trip for today so she booked him in for a test at a center near her only to be told it was only a drive in.

She doesn't drive, so she had to get on a bus out of her area with a maybe infected child to get a test done elsewhere. The whole thing is a mess.

You can just get a home delivery test surely if you think you may have it that would be the best option?
 
Absolutely ridiculous they are thinking of a delay.
No it isn’t.

I’ve said a couple of times recently that they should look at where the second vaccine age comes to and if they feel they would like to get the age of those with a second jab down somewhat, then a two or three week delay is absolutely fine.

What is it you want to do on exactly the 21st June that you can’t already do?
 
You can just get a home delivery test surely if you think you may have it that would be the best option?

The lad had a test at home and it tested as negative, she was told to take him for a test at a center mate. She had over the weekend to find out if he was positive so he could go on holiday to Blackpool on the Monday.

The only way she could get to get him tested was to take 3 children on a bus to the testing site, if he was positive that's just stupid IMO.
 
No it isn’t.

I’ve said a couple of times recently that they should look at where the second vaccine age comes to and if they feel they would like to get the age of those with a second jab down somewhat, then a two or three week delay is absolutely fine.

What is it you want to do on exactly the 21st June that you can’t already do?

Is that a serious question? Just to be able to go on a day out and not have to put up with all these bullshit restrictions would be a start. Going to town for an all day drinking session with my mates (more than 6) without having to worry about booking tables or where we can get in. Go to a club, a concert, a football match where you don’t need to take 4 tests to go to, sit in a restaurant with more than 2 households, have a birthday party for my daughter without worrying about it raining as we can’t have more than 6 inside. The list is endless and the more people start accepting that this is normal and not that bad the longer this is going to get dragged out.
 
The lad had a test at home and it tested as negative, she was told to take him for a test at a center mate. She had over the weekend to find out if he was positive so he could go on holiday to Blackpool on the Monday.

The only way she could get to get him tested was to take 3 children on a bus to the testing site, if he was positive that's just stupid IMO.

Ridiculous that surely the home test should have been enough. Hope he is ok anyway.
 
That’s hardly what his original post said, just a few restaurants ffs. Made it sound like the whole place was shutting.

Only a big issue for me as I’ve got my son’s birthday meal out in Manchester tonight so shit it for a minute.
His op was perfectly correct.
 
That’s hardly what his original post said, just a few restaurants ffs. Made it sound like the whole place was shutting.

Only a big issue for me as I’ve got my son’s birthday meal out in Manchester tonight so shit it for a minute.

Am I right in thinking if they have 1 person through their doors on the trace and trace app that reports a positive test, they have to shut down? Surprised there aren’t more if that’s the case the amount of people that will be in town those weekend.
 
Am I right in thinking if they have 1 person through their doors on the trace and trace app that reports a positive test, they have to shut down? Surprised there aren’t more if that’s the case the amount of people that will be in town those weekend.
Nah, assume it’s staff related.
 
That’s hardly what his original post said, just a few restaurants ffs. Made it sound like the whole place was shutting.

Only a big issue for me as I’ve got my son’s birthday meal out in Manchester tonight so shit it for a minute.

Hope you have a great time for your sons birthday pal, the weather is looking good so that's a good start.
 
Is that a serious question? Just to be able to go on a day out and not have to put up with all these bullshit restrictions would be a start. Going to town for an all day drinking session with my mates (more than 6) without having to worry about booking tables or where we can get in. Go to a club, a concert, a football match where you don’t need to take 4 tests to go to, sit in a restaurant with more than 2 households, have a birthday party for my daughter without worrying about it raining as we can’t have more than 6 inside. The list is endless and the more people start accepting that this is normal and not that bad the longer this is going to get dragged out.
On exactly 21st June? What clubs are open during the week anyway? What concerts are planned for that week? What football are we able to go to?

What sort of mental fortitude do people have where they can’t just wait a few more weeks to make sure a good few more people have had their second jab?
We’ve already seen how cases are rising around here, if we can just get a few more their second jab until we’re in a position where we feel it’s time to open up, then we open up.

We’ve done 62 weeks, we can make it 64 or 65 just to make sure a few million more people are in a safer position.
 
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