Political relations between UK-EU

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bluethrunthru said:
and how do you ensure that happens?

CLUE: Border checks - the only question is where is the border?
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Hey they should just take our word for it because innocent until proven guilty. Its not like the UK government is promising something it has zero control over, given that they aren't the ones selling the meat and have absolutely no ability to prevent someone driving a van full of meat over the border
 
And in other news, the predictable happens...problem with your suppliers? Can’t guarantee they will be reliable in the coming months? Let us help you. NI is a major sausage producer which is something that seems to have been overlooked.

 
BobKowalski said:
Or alternatively do what some Supermarkets in NI are doing already and that is source from Ireland, North and the Republic. Supply chains are configuring to an all Ireland basis irrespective of periods. Businesses like to operate on the basis of certainty.

The UK will ban chilled meats from the EU in October, so sausages from the Republic of Ireland will no longer be available here. Lovely thing trade barriers, they are a win for everyone.

Brexit, disrupter of trade, strife with our closest neighbours and a red tape growth industry. You must be delighted with the results.
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Do you really think this is about individual products rather than the symbolism of it for loyalists in NI? Please tell me you don’t.
 
metalblue said:
Do you really think this is about individual products rather than the symbolism of it for loyalists in NI? Please tell me you don’t.
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And if the UK Govt reduced the inflammatory rhetoric over ‘sausages’, didn’t pander to the Unionists and worked on pragmatic solutions in cooperation with the EU and specifically Dublin then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

It is the UK Govt promoting discord through the symbolism of ‘sausages‘ while the majority in NI get on with trying to sort out solutions for a shitshow they didn’t vote for.

Seriously, you Brexiteer’s need to look at yourselves for voting to rip up agreements with no clue of what to put in their place or any conception of the difficulties or problems; and then do fuck all other than whine about the EU.
 
BobKowalski said:
And if the UK Govt reduced the inflammatory rhetoric over ‘sausages’, didn’t pander to the Unionists and worked on pragmatic solutions in cooperation with the EU and specifically Dublin then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

It is the UK Govt promoting discord through the symbolism of ‘sausages‘ while the majority in NI get on with trying to sort out solutions for a shitshow they didn’t vote for.

Seriously, you Brexiteer’s need to look at yourselves for voting to rip up agreements with no clue of what to put in their place or any conception of the difficulties or problems; and then do fuck all other than whine about the EU.
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Not that bright are they?
 
metalblue said:
Again….NI is a special case. I fully agree the EU should enforce product rules for product going into the EU.

You can go on about whataboutery all you like, the UK have made it clear the products are for consumption in NI only.

We have the concept in this country of innocent before being proven guilty; you seem to be suggestion NI residents and business are intent on flouting EU law with zero evidence to back this up. Well done, what sentence do you wish to pass down your honour?
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Again, for those who can't read, it leaves open the possibility for this to happen your honour, honest, it was intended to stay in NI but...

Try that going through customs with a package you didn't know contained drugs. I didn't intend to smuggle just did it for a mate.

You must be extremely naive.
 
dave_blue12 said:
Now that is what I call an understatement.

But the really incredible thing is many of them truly believe they understand what they voted for, when in truth, they don't have a clue.
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If they knew they would be able to put forward a solution - of which there is naught
 
All these wonderful trade deals being sold as a win for the UK. Yet most of them are countries quite rightly taking back what the Empire stole off them for a couple of hundred years.
 
metalblue said:
The issue is that the UK wants to continue to provide raw chilled meat to NI as part of the UK. There is no suggestion that these products are destined for the EU market.

That the EU is taking a overly bureaucratic approach should surprise no one; however as was once said of the British, they are the most compliant set of people however push them too far and they will bite back over the most mundane of things.

If no agreement is reached the UK will seemingly react by extending the current rules, thus providing more time to reach a pragmatic solution. Should the EU reject that approach and seek legal recourse it would demonstrate a lack of good faith on their side IMHO - NI has to be seen as a special case.
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Err...OK.
Why did we sign up to it then?
Specifically the agreement states that chilled meats GB to NI have to be frozen.
UK accepted it in law.
 
Interesting to see how Brexit is reconfiguring trade in Ireland. The Irish Sea border is making all Ireland trade more viable and ‘it looks as if the UK’s traditionally chunky goods trade surplus with Ireland (£8bn in 2019) could be coming to an end.’

‘Value of Irish goods imported from GB January to April 2021 was €3.3bn million, a decrease of €2bn (-39%) compared with January to April 2020.

Irish goods exports Jan - Apr to GB increased by 5% (3.8bn - 4bn) & to NI by 40% (697m - 977m).

Irish goods imports from NI in the same period were up 60% from €656m to just over €1bn.‘

Source BBC.
 
Len Rum said:
When asked about the benefits to the UK he said they must be hiding inside a giant cake!
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Yeah, while the tariffs reduction is over a 15 year period, the tariff free quotas for Aussie Beef and Lamb have been substantially increased right away.

Welsh, Scottish and NI assemblies will be very unhappy as will all UK farmers. Big win for the Aussies. Fair play to them.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yeah, while the tariffs reduction is over a 15 year period, the tariff free quotas for Aussie Beef and Lamb have been substantially increased right away.

Welsh, Scottish and NI assemblies will be very unhappy as will all UK farmers. Big win for the Aussies. Fair play to them.
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Getting the better of the twats currently ruining our country is child's play it seems.
 
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