Political relations between UK-EU

[Gaylord du Bois]

Cool story.

I'd like to say I feel your pain but...

 

[Tb1981]

Dublin has more influence with the EU than London. Members states will always have more influence than non member states. That’s why they are members.

Members being the key word

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

The EU are just playing the UK at their own game. I doubt it was multinational giant AZ who came up with the idea that vaccine produced in one country should primarily go to that country. I don't think it was the AZ negotiators that sat at the table and said "How about this for an idea..."

Maybe if the UK changed their stance a little and said "vaccine produced in the UK should primarily be used in the UK and the 70 other countries that the UK has spread a more aggressive, more deadly variant to because of our failed Covid policy" everyone might reach an agreement.

India are producing the AstraZeneca vaccine for themselves, it's being produced in South America I assume for use in South America, it's nothing new, the EU have their own production facilites, the fact they aren't up to speed is down to them, not the UK. Wow virus's mutate they don't give one fuck about government policy.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Le Trump Francaise

 

[meltonblue]

India are producing the AstraZeneca vaccine for themselves, it's being produced in South America I assume for use in South America, it's nothing new, the EU have their own production facilites, the fact they aren't up to speed is down to them, not the UK. Wow virus's mutate they don't give one fuck about government policy.

It’s not, it’s down to AZ, that’s why there isn’t a similar argument with Pfizer.

We really really don’t want EU production facilities for the EU, U.K. for U.K. etc. We’d be fucked already if everyone did that.

 

[bluethrunthru]

This - borders - fishing - all illustrative in the first month how many MP's didn't read or don't understand "the deal"

 

[blueyorkie]

I just read an article in the Times (paywall so won't link) about the UK vaccine procurement team led by Kate Bingham. They were clearly far more agile and professional than the EU team, which was led by the equivalent of a parish councillor from Cyprus whose career to date consisted of fuck all. Bingham has had a long and extremely successful career in the pharmaceutical and biotechnology sectors and she gathered a like minded team around her.

Ka - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

She said her brief from Boris Johnson was simply to save lives and they have done an amazing job of maximising our chances of obtaining working vaccines and securing supplies. She's done it without accepting any renumeration too.

Deserving of just rewards

 

[MCFC_ Phil]

I agree. The worst thing we could do now is regard this as victory over the EU.

There will be no victory for anyone until this world is to as great an extent as possible Covid free.

And Europe may or may not be part of our economic union any more but no vaccine can shift global geography and it will be our neighbour come what may.

We all should care about our neighbours and look out for them if they are in trouble. For that is what humans do in an hour of need.

The one good thing all these sacrificed lives can bring about is a new unity of the planet as this pandemic has exposed the fragility of ideology and politics and rivalry. You only defeat an enemy of the planet by acting together as a planet and laying aside differences and helping one another as best we can.

I would respect our government - not attack them - if they suggested we all get together over zoom and plan a strategy to save lives across Europe and do our bit to share in that not go na nah na nah na to the EU

After we get that sorted Boris should then call Biden and suggest we do the same to protect the rest of the world with a proper strategy of share to save lives.

This is the right way for humanity to behave. And the making or breaking of all leaders as to whether they embrace selflessness or selfishness.
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Most decent human beings will respect the ones who choose the right path here as nobody wins this war if anybody loses it. And there are still many nations who may do just that even if we can see the first flickers of a Summer's dawn lighting the horizon.

Bloody hell Heald, you're getting all Greta! Nice post though.

 

[Tb1981]

So a company makes a vaccine for zero profit during a global pandemic And the EU thinks now is the best time to pick a fight with them and go all guns blazing?
I can only imagine the calls for Boris to resign if this was the other way round.
Sounds to me like the EU has dithered over the approval, while also trying to discredit this vaccines effectiveness, delayed procurement and now thinks the best way out is to make the whole situation worse with a diplomatic war
Couldn’t make it up
Short of vic and bob criticising them it couldn’t get any worse.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

This - borders - fishing - all illustrative in the first month how many MP's didn't read or don't understand "the deal"

That's one way of spinning what the EU have done tonight I suppose.

It shows their 'concern' about the Irish border was just a convenient pretext is another one and that is the one I prefer to use.