England v Scotland | Euro 2020 Group Stage

Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
I couldn’t deal with the negativity from the itv commentators tonight. Constant moaning about England. It’s only the second game and we’ve got 4 points. I think that’s a pretty decent start.

You’d think the world had ended listening to them tonight. And my god yes Grealish is a good player, but you’d think he was the second coming of Jesus... for about 40 minutes they would not stop going on about him
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He's not the Messiah......
 
chesterbells said:
Croatia 5/4 to win on Tuesday.

For all the praise Scotland have had, they upped their game against England and they’ll finish the group stage with 1 point and be out.
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That's why I don't understand the hype surrounding what they did last night. Of course they avoided defeat when England were expected to win but the last 20mins they should have tried harder to beat England.

Obviously they could beat Croatia and be proven correct but I don't think they will.
 
Only Mount and foden get a pass from me up top, they didn’t shirk and happy to take the ball but too deep when starting off their runs. Stones and Mings were steady. Pickford did the minimum requirement but let down by his constant need to hoof the ball upfield like it was a bomb. The clamour to get Grealish on was bizarre and when he arrived he made England ever slower. Rashford was useless just drifted into his club position when he was clearly instructed to go up top. Full backs just defenders nothing going forward and if you playing with 3 offensive mids tucked inside you need width from them to create space. Kane looks pony but he is incredibly isolated due to 4231 formation.
 
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bluestreak said:
My suspicious thoughts are that no one wants to finish top in this group. Had England beaten Scotland they would likely finish top of the group. Top of group D vs 2nd group F which would likely be France, Germany or Portugal. (England's possible end of comp). Therefore the target is to finish second. Group D 2nd vs Group E 2nd. would be much easier route against Poland, Sweden or Slovakia if Spain win the group, I would have thought.
Yesterday Croatia with no points played out a timid draw with Czech Republic. Croatia now have to beat Scotland at Hampden to go through.
Perhaps my thinking is just a load of suspicious bollocks ;-)
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finishing second could have us playing one of those same teams..
 
Can you imagine working with the best managers in the world, Pep ,Tuchel, etc. then come to play for England and meet Gareth. He watches the PL games and tries to emulate mangers far above his level of intelligence. You sit in on his team talks and think WTF, this isnt going to work but have to abide by his decisions.Your mood drops, you have no confidence and this frankly is why we are useless as a national team.Potentially we have a world winning squad. I will bet he will be gone after this campaign.
 
The Future is Blue said:
Truly awful game of hoofball.....amongst the poor displays by England's 11 both Kane and Sterling were terrible. How are we going to score any goals when both Rice and Phillips won't or can't play forward? I feel worse than I did after City's pathetic display in Chumps League final!
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that isn't possible, 1 second after the final whistle i couldn't give two fucks, where as the champs league final :(
 
I haven't read any of the posts on here yet so I may be repeating what everyone else is saying, so apologies if that is the case. I was worried that Pickford might have one of his nightmares, especially in that torrential rain, but he played very well. The back four, which looked a potential weakness also did very well but I have to say that the praise for Adams and Dykes escaped all control seeing as they would struggle to get a shot on target if England's eleven left the field. They should not have bothered Stones and Mings, they didn't threaten the Czech republic and they'll need more than a barn door to shoot at against Croatia. It was further forward where we fell apart. I suppose we were "playing out from the back" but in reality all too often we were playing around at the back because Philips and Rice came so deep that we got a dozen square passes as they thought what to do - before Sterling and Foden (and sometimes Kane) came deep to join in the square dance OR we got a rather aimless hoof up in the vague direction of the front three. Mason mount had to join in because he never got chance to play the game he plays at Chelsea. Phil and Raz were in the team, I suppose, to dribble through a defence lying deep but Kane was so out of form that he was rarely in the game and when the other dribbler, Grealish, came on Kane was not on the pitch and he had the same impossible task that Phil had had. That England team was so laboured and slow because the style of play (if one could be identified) was totally at odds with the players selected. Sorry, but I've never seen anything to suggest Southgate is up to the job and last night's show gave further evidence that he isn't.
 
To be honest I'd take a draw versus the Czech Republic too, finish 2nd, play 2nd in Spain's group. We're not ready to play one of France, Portugal or Germany this early.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Yeah, just something a bit different to what we’ve seen so far.
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Think that’s the crux, isn’t it.

Agree that Foden hasn’t quite nailed that central role yet, albeit with only very limited opportunities.

Could be Grealish as a 10, Foden left and Sancho/Sterling right.

If it’s Phillips and fucking Rice, with two non-attacking fullbacks, I’ll cry.
 
Berts Neck said:
Can you imagine working with the best managers in the world, Pep ,Tuchel, etc. then come to play for England and meet Gareth. He watches the PL games and tries to emulate mangers far above his level of intelligence. You sit in on his team talks and think WTF, this isnt going to work but have to abide by his decisions.Your mood drops, you have no confidence and this frankly is why we are useless as a national team.Potentially we have a world winning squad. I will bet he will be gone after this campaign.
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I certainly hope he gets his p45, but dont see the FA having the gonads to issue it
 
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