Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

Corky said:
They are likely to stand further back as you can barely see anything there.
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Brilliant when we are attacking the SS and actually a right good set of lads around us as well. Point is though that we sell out pretty much every game yet there are always loads of empty seats.
 
willipp said:
Brilliant when we are attacking the SS and actually a right good set of lads around us as well. Point is though that we sell out pretty much every game yet there are always loads of empty seats.
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The problem then is s/c holders not putting hem back onto the planner for resale. Not sure why that would be.
 
blueparrot said:
The problem then is s/c holders not putting hem back onto the planner for resale. Not sure why that would be.
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Yeah I’ve seen it being discussed for years now as an issue. If I can’t go I always make sure I offer it to mates to go and nearly always ensure it’s filled if I can’t. Guess some people don’t really care if it’s filled or not, all they care about is having it for the games they want to attend.
 
bluemanc16 said:
I had a conversation with Danny Wilson, a couple of years ago, and the conversation turned to season card holders not going to every game. He told me of a family of four having season cards and only attending six or seven matches a season.
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This must be a common problem at all grounds and doesn't help with the argument for reducing matchday prices when others can pick and choose when to turn up. The fanbase has a whole range of people wanting to attend, some can only afford £15 a game (value gold), up to others willing to pay £100 a game (lowest premium) for just a padded seat away from the hoi polloi. The club cannot reduce prices because those not bothered about the cost will be more likely not to attend, after all pretty much every game is on TV.

I've sometimes thought that clubs should do away with season tickets, and that you put a deposit down, say £95 (19 x £5), just to guarantee an advanced slot to buy your seat. Then sell the tickets and if you miss your deadline, lose your chance to reserve your seat, and the £5 discount. As you buy tickets, the more continuously attended matches attract an additional growing loyalty discount. Miss a match and your next discount is reduced a little.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
This must be a common problem at all grounds and doesn't help with the argument for reducing matchday prices when others can pick and choose when to turn up. The fanbase has a whole range of people wanting to attend, some can only afford £15 a game (value gold), up to others willing to pay £100 a game (lowest premium) for just a padded seat away from the hoi polloi. The club cannot reduce prices because those not bothered about the cost will be more likely not to attend, after all pretty much every game is on TV.

I've sometimes thought that clubs should do away with season tickets, and that you put a deposit down, say £95 (19 x £5), just to guarantee an advanced slot to buy your seat. Then sell the tickets and if you miss your deadline, lose your chance to reserve your seat, and the £5 discount. As you buy tickets, the more continuously attended matches attract an additional growing loyalty discount. Miss a match and your next discount is reduced a little.
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They need season tickets or the crowds would suffer, same for all clubs. It is easier than trying to sell 50k tickets for Southampton at home on a Tuesday in early December.

I am not sure why anyone at the club would be concerned if people buying don't turn up. I know 'Pearce' emailed fans who didn't attend once, after the 3-0 home win against Birmingham in 2005, but that was a one off and nothing for the last 16 years.
 
I have to say that I have never met or sat near anyone who buys a season ticket and does not go on a regular bassis, I have had the same seat since we moved into the Etihad and everyone who sits near me and to a degree several rows away we have got to know, some have moved, but appart from the odd empty seat its always the same people, even in the bar areas. I cannot say people dont but it must be very few and I think the people arround me would say something. We have the opposite in our area, everyone askes where the missing person is if they dont turn up, more to make sure they are ok, but everyone is a regular going supporter, at most missing one or two league games, cup games are different.
 
blueparrot said:
The problem then is s/c holders not putting hem back onto the planner for resale. Not sure why that would be.
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I've put my lads ticket on the planner for resale 4 times for mid week games, Level 2 SS 3 rows from the front and its never sold.

Why would you pay £65 to watch a nothing match against Palace or Burnley when you don't know if you can even make it to the ground on time. City also remove them from available if they've not sold the rest of the ground as it saves them crediting back £11 in my lads case.
 
bluemanc16 said:
I had a conversation with Danny Wilson, a couple of years ago, and the conversation turned to season card holders not going to every game. He told me of a family of four having season cards and only attending six or seven matches a season.
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The difference in seat price between a seasoncard and individual matchday prices means they probably come close to breaking even, especially if they attend the biggest games in their seven visits a season. The comparatively high cost of individual matchday tickets is an issue
 
LongsightM13 said:
The difference in seat price between a seasoncard and individual matchday prices means they probably come close to breaking even, especially if they attend the biggest games in their seven visits a season. The comparatively high cost of individual matchday tickets is an issue
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Even worse if you live a distance away and factor in travel costs. Many supporters club members do it for this reason.
 
City really do need to come up with a scheme that enables those not able to attend every game to buy tickets and sit with friends. TV fixture changes causes attendance problems. A non-allocated area for ad hoc ticket sales seems sensible.

Also it is unrealistic to expect those with season cards with kids in the family stand to attend every game.
 
percypawpaw said:
I have to say that I have never met or sat near anyone who buys a season ticket and does not go on a regular bassis, I have had the same seat since we moved into the Etihad and everyone who sits near me and to a degree several rows away we have got to know, some have moved, but appart from the odd empty seat its always the same people, even in the bar areas. I cannot say people dont but it must be very few and I think the people arround me would say something. We have the opposite in our area, everyone askes where the missing person is if they dont turn up, more to make sure they are ok, but everyone is a regular going supporter, at most missing one or two league games, cup games are different.
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I think that is the case for most, but how many of next seasons 18 games are going to be 15:00 on a Saturday? i am in a fairly large family group that passes on tickets within the family if they can not make it, but with all these odd times there are games none of us can make.
 
Will post the drone video when I remember the site.

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spiny said:
City really do need to come up with a scheme that enables those not able to attend every game to buy tickets and sit with friends. TV fixture changes causes attendance problems. A non-allocated area for ad hoc ticket sales seems sensible.

Also it is unrealistic to expect those with season cards with kids in the family stand to attend every game.
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Absolutely.
The casual fan deciding on a Friday night he or she may like a cheap ticket at the weekend if they fancy it, is the bottom of the list.
 
asahartford1 said:
Absolutely.
The casual fan deciding on a Friday night he or she may like a cheap ticket at the weekend if they fancy it, is the bottom of the list.
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the walk up and pay on the gate base city fans used to be a key part of the crowds at maine road
modern day football does not fit the walk up and pay on the gate. the need for control and hooligans stop all of that

if covid-19 has taught us one thing ? tv fans could be a good new income and clubs showing live games on the internet or with sky or BT-sports, even in pubs or at home fans could pay a fee of £10 and watch it live or a couple of mins behind

all premier league games need to be shown live in the uk. i don't think it will cut or hurt match day crowds because fans that love there clubs will always go to games home or away

maybe a idea is if ticket sales does not reach 30.000 or 50.000 for bigger games the day before. then open the tv arm chair club and charge up to £20 a game on the city tv channel UK only
 
ancoats said:
the walk up and pay on the gate base city fans used to be a key part of the crowds at maine road
modern day football does not fit the walk up and pay on the gate. the need for control and hooligans stop all of that

if covid-19 has taught us one thing ? tv fans could be a good new income and clubs showing live games on the internet or with sky or BT-sports, even in pubs or at home fans could pay a fee of £10 and watch it live or a couple of mins behind

all premier league games need to be shown live in the uk. i don't think it will cut or hurt match day crowds because fans that love there clubs will always go to games home or away

maybe a idea is if ticket sales does not reach 30.000 or 50.000 for bigger games the day before. then open the tv arm chair club and charge up to £20 a game on the city tv channel UK only
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Work means I can rarely get to games so,as much as I'd love to,mostly I am limited to TV.Some sort of season ticket for such would be very welcome
 
ancoats said:
the walk up and pay on the gate base city fans used to be a key part of the crowds at maine road
modern day football does not fit the walk up and pay on the gate. the need for control and hooligans stop all of that

if covid-19 has taught us one thing ? tv fans could be a good new income and clubs showing live games on the internet or with sky or BT-sports, even in pubs or at home fans could pay a fee of £10 and watch it live or a couple of mins behind

all premier league games need to be shown live in the uk. i don't think it will cut or hurt match day crowds because fans that love there clubs will always go to games home or away

maybe a idea is if ticket sales does not reach 30.000 or 50.000 for bigger games the day before. then open the tv arm chair club and charge up to £20 a game on the city tv channel UK only
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But when was the last time we got less than 30,000 ?
I remember games at Maine rd when 55000 went to a Derby, then 24000 on a Saturday following.
I agree if there are tickets available a gate system could be introduced for match day, any system which maximizes gates is what we want.

The TV , clubs selling viewing just isn't possible is it under present contracts, and that is where cash for the clubs is generated
 
asahartford1 said:
The TV , clubs selling viewing just isn't possible is it under present contracts, and that is where cash for the clubs is generated
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the tv right are for sky and BT-sports and 2 rounds on amazon. but not all game are shown live in the uk like last season under covid-19 lockdown. i think many more games can be sold to uk fans at home and it would stop all the illegal streaming ? clubs should be aloud to show there games live on there channels for uk people only if sky or BT-are not showing them live
 
ancoats said:
the tv right are for sky and BT-sports and 2 rounds on amazon. but not all game are shown live in the uk like last season under covid-19 lockdown. i think many more games can be sold to uk fans at home and it would stop all the illegal streaming ? clubs should be aloud to show there games live on there channels for uk people only if sky or BT-are not showing them live
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You may well be correct.
 
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