Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

[citizen_maine]

the tv right are for sky and BT-sports and 2 rounds on amazon. but not all game are shown live in the uk like last season under covid-19 lockdown. i think many more games can be sold to uk fans at home and it would stop all the illegal streaming ? clubs should be aloud to show there games live on there channels for uk people only if sky or BT-are not showing them live

Unfortunately the FA are still in the last century attitude that showing all games will destroy gates at lower division games.

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

I've put my lads ticket on the planner for resale 4 times for mid week games, Level 2 SS 3 rows from the front and its never sold.

Why would you pay £65 to watch a nothing match against Palace or Burnley when you don't know if you can even make it to the ground on time. City also remove them from available if they've not sold the rest of the ground as it saves them crediting back £11 in my lads case.

This is 100% true.
Me and my friend sit at the back of 115, my friend couldn’t make the Villa game (when they first got promoted)
He put his ticket up for sale (it works out his seasoncard cost him about £30.00 per game)
The game was a saturday midday kickoff on Sky.
My brother found out friday afternoon that he was not working that saturday (the day after)

He went on the planner, looked at the seat my friend put up for sale next to me.

South Stand level 1 (one of the cheapest parts of the ground) Against newly promoted Aston Villa at home, kicking off at midday live on Sky - how much was the ticket…….£56.00 FIFTY SIX POUND for a no frills game!
He come up to the ground, watched it in The Townley and spent the money on his day out.
No wonder there are empty seats

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

the tv right are for sky and BT-sports and 2 rounds on amazon. but not all game are shown live in the uk like last season under covid-19 lockdown. i think many more games can be sold to uk fans at home and it would stop all the illegal streaming ? clubs should be aloud to show there games live on there channels for uk people only if sky or BT-are not showing them live

There are two obvious problems with that.

Firstly, Sky, BT & Amazon have expensive contracts to broadcast games and having clubs broadcast additional games isn't part of those contracts.

Secondly, if clubs can only broadcast the games that the current rights holders aren't showing then that isn't a compelling offer to most fans. You'd still need to subscribe to all of them to see all games.

 

[citizen_maine]

There are two obvious problems with that.

Firstly, Sky, BT & Amazon have expensive contracts to broadcast games and having clubs broadcast additional games isn't part of those contracts.

Secondly, if clubs can only broadcast the games that the current rights holders aren't showing then that isn't a compelling offer to most fans. You'd still need to subscribe to all of them to see all games.

Or you just do what they've been doing during Covid and let the current contract holders show all of the games

 

[City & Blue Brazil]

the tv right are for sky and BT-sports and 2 rounds on amazon. but not all game are shown live in the uk like last season under covid-19 lockdown. i think many more games can be sold to uk fans at home and it would stop all the illegal streaming ? clubs should be aloud to show there games live on there channels for uk people only if sky or BT-are not showing them live

Great idea if you want to boost the finances of the rags and scousers...

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Correct only I thought they were hoping to build it on the same side of A-U-L New Road?

I'd put us as a bit better than mid range as it stands though.

There were two options. One on the site where the North Car Park is (which probably includes the arena site) but the preferred option was a stadium to rival any in the world on the (now) CFA site. But there were insoluble issues around the current lease.

 

[spiny]

True but I still prefer the Etihad to Wembley or the Arse Emirates stadiums.

 

[spiny]

Great idea if you want to boost the finances of the rags and scousers...

Both stadiums lacking leg room seating. Liverpool ground not up to to meet modern international standards and OT in desperate need of updating.

 

[jimharri]

True but I still prefer the Etihad to Wembley or the Arse Emirates stadiums.

Wembley is an okay stadium (I wouldn't go any higher than that), but its in a shitty area.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I've sometimes thought that clubs should do away with season tickets, and that you put a deposit down, say £95 (19 x £5), just to guarantee an advanced slot to buy your seat. Then sell the tickets and if you miss your deadline, lose your chance to reserve your seat, and the £5 discount. As you buy tickets, the more continuously attended matches attract an additional growing loyalty discount. Miss a match and your next discount is reduced a little.

I suggested a similar scheme to the club in the early days of City Matters. The world and football season has changed and people can't commit in the same way they could when most or every game was at 3pm on Saturday.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

This must be a common problem at all grounds and doesn't help with the argument for reducing matchday prices when others can pick and choose when to turn up. The fanbase has a whole range of people wanting to attend, some can only afford £15 a game (value gold), up to others willing to pay £100 a game (lowest premium) for just a padded seat away from the hoi polloi. The club cannot reduce prices because those not bothered about the cost will be more likely not to attend, after all pretty much every game is on TV.

I've sometimes thought that clubs should do away with season tickets, and that you put a deposit down, say £95 (19 x £5), just to guarantee an advanced slot to buy your seat. Then sell the tickets and if you miss your deadline, lose your chance to reserve your seat, and the £5 discount. As you buy tickets, the more continuously attended matches attract an additional growing loyalty discount. Miss a match and your next discount is reduced a little.

I suggested a similar scheme to the club in the early days of City Matters. The world and football season has changed and people can't commit in the same way they could when most or every game was at 3pm on Saturday.

That's a very good idea. I'd prefer to commit to a seasoncard as currently but this as an additional option would work for a lot of people.

I suppose it's a financial balancing act for the club. Currently the 44k or so seasoncard holders have paid for their seats for all home league games. If you had thousands not claiming their seats for a rearranged mid week game against Burnley for instance there probably wouldn't be huge demand for them.

 

[balotellishaircut]

Will post the drone video when I remember the site.

Screen grabbed from the drone video.

Pre-arena start.

Fantastic pics JRB

 

[Prophet of Doom]

I suggested a similar scheme to the club in the early days of City Matters. The world and football season has changed and people can't commit in the same way they could when most or every game was at 3pm on Saturday.

What about the majority of the 44000 season card holders that can atttend every league game ?? Make them have to buy a ticket for every individual league game because some seasoncard holders would like to pick and choose ?

The club have set up a resale option - and even let you pay monthly by direct debit . Seriously what more do people expect ?

If supporters want to pick and choose games they can attend and can’t be arsed using the resale service they shouldn’t buy a seasoncard and stick to buying individual tickets.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

What about the majority of the 44000 season card holders that can atttend every league game ?? Make them have to buy a ticket for every individual league game because some seasoncard holders would like to pick and choose ?

The club have set up a resale option - and even let you pay monthly by direct debit . Seriously what more do people expect ?

If supporters want to pick and choose games they can attend and can’t be arsed using the resale service they shouldn’t buy a seasoncard and stick to buying individual tickets.

Why do you think we often have thousands of empty seats? Why do you think the club is saying they'll not automatically renew tickets that don't attend x number of games?

People don't put their tickets on the exchange, that's the problem. I've seen the numbers and they're pretty bad. Absolutely shocking for some games and that is seasoncard holders not turning up and not listing their tickets. Kids generally can't make midweek games in term-time. Why should they not have seasoncards?

If you don't want empty seats then you have to do something a bit more innovative or radical. Why should someone who lives down south, or in Scotland, be barred from buying a seasoncard just because they can't make midweek games? They want to sit with family, friends or the seats they've sat in for 20 years, with people they may have even sat with at Maine Road.

Typical 'I'm alright Jack attitude'.

 

[Gray]

I suggested a similar scheme to the club in the early days of City Matters. The world and football season has changed and people can't commit in the same way they could when most or every game was at 3pm on Saturday.

I personally hate the 8pm midweek games, and the late Saturday ones.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Why do you think we often have thousands of empty seats? Why do you think the club is saying they'll not automatically renew tickets that don't attend x number of games?

People don't put their tickets on the exchange, that's the problem. I've seen the numbers and they're pretty bad. Absolutely shocking for some games and that is seasoncard holders not turning up and not listing their tickets. Kids generally can't make midweek games in term-time. Why should they not have seasoncards?

If you don't want empty seats then you have to do something a bit more innovative or radical. Why should someone who lives down south, or in Scotland, be barred from buying a seasoncard just because they can't make midweek games? They want to sit with family, friends or the seats they've sat in for 20 years, with people they may have even sat with at Maine Road.

Typical 'I'm alright Jack attitude'.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

I personally hate the 8pm midweek games, and the late Saturday ones.

Why do you think we often have thousands of empty seats? Why do you think the club is saying they'll not automatically renew tickets that don't attend x number of games?

People don't put their tickets on the exchange, that's the problem. I've seen the numbers and they're pretty bad. Absolutely shocking for some games and that is seasoncard holders not turning up and not listing their tickets. Kids generally can't make midweek games in term-time. Why should they not have seasoncards?

If you don't want empty seats then you have to do something a bit more innovative or radical. Why should someone who lives down south, or in Scotland, be barred from buying a seasoncard just because they can't make midweek games? They want to sit with family, friends or the seats they've sat in for 20 years, with people they may have even sat with at Maine Road.

Typical 'I'm alright Jack attitude'.

Why do you think we often have thousands of empty seats? Why do you think the club is saying they'll not automatically renew tickets that don't attend x number of games?

People don't put their tickets on the exchange, that's the problem. I've seen the numbers and they're pretty bad. Absolutely shocking for some games and that is seasoncard holders not turning up and not listing their tickets. Kids generally can't make midweek games in term-time. Why should they not have seasoncards?

If you don't want empty seats then you have to do something a bit more innovative or radical. Why should someone who lives down south, or in Scotland, be barred from buying a seasoncard just because they can't make midweek games? They want to sit with family, friends or the seats they've sat in for 20 years, with people they may have even sat with at Maine Road.

Typical 'I'm alright Jack attitude'.

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Why do you think we often have thousands of empty seats? Why do you think the club is saying they'll not automatically renew tickets that don't attend x number of games?

People don't put their tickets on the exchange, that's the problem. I've seen the numbers and they're pretty bad. Absolutely shocking for some games and that is seasoncard holders not turning up and not listing their tickets. Kids generally can't make midweek games in term-time. Why should they not have seasoncards?

If you don't want empty seats then you have to do something a bit more innovative or radical. Why should someone who lives down south, or in Scotland, be barred from buying a seasoncard just because they can't make midweek games? They want to sit with family, friends or the seats they've sat in for 20 years, with people they may have even sat with at Maine Road.

Typical 'I'm alright Jack attitude'.

The majority of seasoncard holders attend every ( or nearly every ) game. Are you seriously City should operate different to every other club in the country and stop selling season cards due to a couple of thousand supporters who can’t make midweek games or supporters that pick and choose the big games.

In my opinion we should use the same system that German clubs use, if don’t attend or your card is not used for more than a third of games you lose the opportunity to renew.


But dearie me, are you seriously proposing to complicate matters for tens of thousands of seasoncard holders that attend every game who would have to buy a ticket for every individual game just to appease the long distance fans that can’t go midweek ??? Never mind the logistics of the club having to sell 50k seats for every individual game, all just to fill a few empty seats for supporters to lazy to use the resale site.

Mind boggling lunacy.

 

[Utter bobbins]

The majority of seasoncard holders attend every ( or nearly every ) game. Are you seriously City should operate different to every other club in the country and stop selling season cards due to a couple of thousand supporters who can’t make midweek games or supporters that pick and choose the big games.

In my opinion we should use the same system that German clubs use, if don’t attend or your card is not used for more than a third of games you lose the opportunity to renew.


But dearie me, are you seriously proposing to complicate matters for tens of thousands of seasoncard holders that attend every game who would have to buy a ticket for every individual game just to appease the long distance fans that can’t go midweek ??? Never mind the logistics of the club having to sell 50k seats for every individual game, all just to fill a few empty seats for supporters to lazy to use the resale site.

Mind boggling lunacy.

Lol

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The majority of seasoncard holders attend every ( or nearly every ) game. Are you seriously City should operate different to every other club in the country and stop selling season cards due to a couple of thousand supporters who can’t make midweek games or supporters that pick and choose the big games.

In my opinion we should use the same system that German clubs use, if don’t attend or your card is not used for more than a third of games you lose the opportunity to renew.


But dearie me, are you seriously proposing to complicate matters for tens of thousands of seasoncard holders that attend every game who would have to buy a ticket for every individual game just to appease the long distance fans that can’t go midweek ??? Never mind the logistics of the club having to sell 50k seats for every individual game, all just to fill a few empty seats for supporters to lazy to use the resale site.

Mind boggling lunacy.

I'm not advocating stopping selling seasoncards. I'm advocating managing them differently so rather than a presumption that a seasoncard holder is going to turn up, they have to say they're going to turn up. If they confirm they're not, or don't conform they are, within 3 weeks of a game then their ticket is made available to Matchday members. That way people can pick and choose but the club know what seats are available well enough in advance to be able to have a chance of selling them.

I'd also find a way of rewarding those who do turn up, so the more you attend, the less your ticket costs pro-rata compared to someone who only turns up to fewer games.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I'm not advocating stopping selling seasoncards. I'm advocating managing them differently so rather than a presumption that a seasoncard holder is going to turn up, they have to say they're going to turn up. If they confirm they're not, or don't conform they are, within 3 weeks of a game then their ticket is made available to Matchday members. That way people can pick and choose but the club know what seats are available well enough in advance to be able to have a chance of selling them.

I'd also find a way of rewarding those who do turn up, so the more you attend, the less your ticket costs pro-rata compared to someone who only turns up to fewer games.

3 fucking weeks? A lot fucking happens in that time. Bollocks move. You have to confirm 3 weeks before but TV companies or Covid can move the kick-off time whenever they fucking like.