Covid and travel discussion

Back from Torquay. Hotel rates were exorbitant. B&B for a week for not much less than a week on all inclusive at a 5 star resort in Greece. Add in meals out and drinks and it was considerably more expensive in Torquay.
 
Gremlin said:
When I was a kid we couldn't afford holidays abroad for many years (and this isn't a sob story about how poor we were, because we weren't in the big scheme of things) so a series of holidays in caravans in the Lake District were the order of the day. Hence, whilst I understand people need a break, I don't really get why it has to be abroad and why there is so much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how people 'deserve a holiday abroad after all we've been through' (not necessarily from posters on here, by the way).
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Surely the point is that people are free to do what makes them happy? Most work all year to be able to enjoy what little holiday time they are entitled to. If staying in the UK is your thing then great, stay in the UK and enjoy yourself. If wanting to go abroad is your thing then again, go abroad and enjoy yourself. What shouldn't happen is those choosing to go abroad getting stick because of some made up notion it's selfish. Forcing people to stay in the UK is selfish and comes from an underlying misguided patriosm that some have developed since the pandemic.
Let people live their lives as they see fit.
 
west didsblue said:
Back from Torquay. Hotel rates were exorbitant. B&B for a week for not much less than a week on all inclusive at a 5 star resort in Greece. Add in meals out and drinks and it was considerably more expensive in Torquay.
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Was it wall -to- wall sunshine
 
Pablo1 said:
Surely the point is that people are free to do what makes them happy? Most work all year to be able to enjoy what little holiday time they are entitled to. If staying in the UK is your thing then great, stay in the UK and enjoy yourself. If wanting to go abroad is your thing then again, go abroad and enjoy yourself. What shouldn't happen is those choosing to go abroad getting stick because of some made up notion it's selfish. Forcing people to stay in the UK is selfish and comes from an underlying misguided patriosm that some have developed since the pandemic.
Let people live their lives as they see fit.
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In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
 
rowarta said:
in Cornwall at the moment, thought at one point yesterday I needed Noahs services.
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This is the problem with UK holidays isn't it? We've just had the weekend in Anglesey, Saturday and Sunday were lovely, played on the beach and even got a bit of sunburn.
However, when we arrived on the Friday we unpacked the car in the sort of rain that gets you so wet you wonder if you will ever dry out. It was genuinely such a disheartening and miserable experience. Had the forecast been like that for the rest of the weekend I've no idea what we'd have done
 
Gremlin said:
In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
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If the people going abroad are not breaking any laws then they should be allowed to carry on regardless of what the situation is.
It’s up to individual governments to implement the rules and if they say you can visit somewhere then by extension they are saying it’s safe. They are adding many caveats which is putting people off but those willing to jump through all the hoops are doing nothing wrong.
 
Gremlin said:
In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
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Hmmm, it won't just be this year, it'll be the next and the next. If you think they're going to get a handle on these variants and let people be, even if they have their shots and boosters you really haven't been paying attention. If you want to holiday abroad just do it, the squeeze on the airlines will be massive and cheap flights / holidays will soon be a thing of the past.
 
Pablo1 said:
If the people going abroad are not breaking any laws then they should be allowed to carry on regardless of what the situation is.
It’s up to individual governments to implement the rules and if they say you can visit somewhere then by extension they are saying it’s safe. They are adding many caveats which is putting people off but those willing to jump through all the hoops are doing nothing wrong.
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Exactly right, and now that cases here are soaring many are rightly implementing quarantine rules on visitors from the U.K. What pissed me off was our government setting strict rules for entry into the U.K. from some countries that had a fraction of our case rate whilst leaving the door wide open for people coming in with the delta variant based on the prospects of a trade deal.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
In the Mere at the moment and quite a big spaced out site. We are in the owners section by the lake and a little bit rough n ready. Our van is at least 20 years old and was under the impression Haven imposed age limits before you had to pack up and move off.

Mickeys were having a large group party of 20 + last night on the green with copious amounts of ethanol and party games. At 22.00 hundred hours it was kicking off big time and an inhebriated woman was yelling "get out get out my van you fuckrr and don't come back" Ten minutes later the bald headed miscreant came wobbling past us waving his finger at the sky whilst babbling incoherant shite.

Pub's OK and one choice of lager Carlsburg or Carling at £4.70 a pint. We can't go in to see Rory the Tiger and friends as the entertainments extra.

The Mere is a nice walk with lots of camouflaged hides. We sat inside one for half an hour and saw some ducks a kestrel and a brace of 118's.

Went in the Royal Toby across the way as Denis recommended it and it was nothing short of gash. Would sooner have been force fed pie-hella.

Woken up at 04.00.am by a wood pigeons tap dancing on our roof and making their distinctive morning call. For any non birdy's amongst you it's two woo's followed by a prolonged woooo and repeated many times to fuck off the occupier. Also my car is covered in bird droppings, leaves pollen dust and sap.

However the weathers lovely and a breaks a break and not a pcp test in sight. Wish You Were Here : /
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makes benidorm sound like fuckin monte carlo
 
Gremlin said:
In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
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Fuck yes.
 
Gremlin said:
In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
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I assume you're also requesting people to eat at home and not go to restaurants?
And to drink at home rather than going down the boozer?

If people are travelling within the regulations set out by the Government then let them crack on, they are doing nothing wrong and should not be fucking guilt tripped into staying in the UK.

If YOU want to stay at home, then stay at home. I'm sure many others are doing the same this year, which is absolutely cool.
You don't see any of us in the 'foreign holiday' camp telling you staycationers to get your arses abroad, so equally you shouldn't be trying to dictate how someone spends their money and annual leave.

Anyone banging the staycation drum has also picked a really bad day....grey skies and pissing it down all day here; it's almost July, what a joke.
 
Gremlin said:
When I was a kid we couldn't afford holidays abroad for many years (and this isn't a sob story about how poor we were, because we weren't in the big scheme of things) so a series of holidays in caravans in the Lake District were the order of the day. Hence, whilst I understand people need a break, I don't really get why it has to be abroad and why there is so much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how people 'deserve a holiday abroad after all we've been through' (not necessarily from posters on here, by the way).
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The funny thing is it shouldn't be far cheaper to go abroad.

We went to London a few weeks ago and I was forced to drive because the train was over £300 and it was cheaper to fly. The hotel for just 3 nights was £690, £100 for parking! Forget food and drink too so a few nights easily turned into a £1k trip.

To compare, we are booked to go to September to the US for 2 weeks and it's costing just £2k with a 5* hotel and flights included...

If the borders are open and the traffic light is amber or better then we'll be going.
 
inbetween said:
The funny thing is it shouldn't be far cheaper to go abroad.

We went to London a few weeks ago and I was forced to drive because the train was over £300 and it was cheaper to fly. The hotel for just 3 nights was £690, £100 for parking! Forget food and drink too so a few nights easily turned into a £1k trip.

To compare, we are booked to go to September to the US for 2 weeks and it's costing just £2k with a 5* hotel and flights included...

If the borders are open and the traffic light is amber or better then we'll be going.
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That’s what I can never understand about UK holidays if they want more of us don’t take the piss with prices, you can’t be reliant on the weather so give us a better incentive.
 
Blue Maverick said:
That’s what I can never understand about UK holidays if they want more of us don’t take the piss with prices, you can’t be reliant on the weather so give us a better incentive.
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I can understand if a 4* hotel is a few grand for a couple of weeks but smaller crap hotels?

It's cheaper to rent a house for a few months in Cornwall than it is to go on holiday there...
 
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