Also things like the rail prices etc, you can’t tell me those things are full apart from when commuters are in them, get the price down. If I could jump on a train to London for £20 I would but it would be more like £200I can understand if a 4* hotel is a few grand for a couple of weeks but smaller crap hotels?
It's cheaper to rent a house for a few months in Cornwall than it is to go on holiday there...
No one has said it’s unthinkable to holiday in the uk.In normal times, absolutely yes. But these are not normal times and these decisions have consequences that potentially affect other people (the more people coming in and out of the country the more difficult to control the spread of variants). With that in mind is it so absolutely terrible and unthinkable to have a holiday in the UK this year?
Or based on a Uefa semi final and finalExactly right, and now that cases here are soaring many are rightly implementing quarantine rules on visitors from the U.K. What pissed me off was our government setting strict rules for entry into the U.K. from some countries that had a fraction of our case rate whilst leaving the door wide open for people coming in with the delta variant based on the prospects of a trade deal.
One way Advance ticket from Macclesfield to London Euston in August with a railcard is currently £22.35.Also things like the rail prices etc, you can’t tell me those things are full apart from when commuters are in them, get the price down. If I could jump on a train to London for £20 I would but it would be more like £200
Well said. Anybody who comes on here moaning about people wanting to travel abroad, who themselves have been to a pub/restaurant/cinema should take a long, hard look at themselves.I assume you're also requesting people to eat at home and not go to restaurants?
And to drink at home rather than going down the boozer?
If people are travelling within the regulations set out by the Government then let them crack on, they are doing nothing wrong and should not be fucking guilt tripped into staying in the UK.
If YOU want to stay at home, then stay at home. I'm sure many others are doing the same this year, which is absolutely cool.
You don't see any of us in the 'foreign holiday' camp telling you staycationers to get your arses abroad, so equally you shouldn't be trying to dictate how someone spends their money and annual leave.
Anyone banging the staycation drum has also picked a really bad day....grey skies and pissing it down all day here; it's almost July, what a joke.
What about being in a tin can in the sky with 300 strangers ?Well said. Anybody who comes on here moaning about people wanting to travel abroad, who themselves have been to a pub/restaurant/cinema should take a long, hard look at themselves.
It’s quite obvious that indoor hospitality is going to spread the virus far more than any other activity. Britain’s obsession with going to the pub has probably killed quite a few people.
What about being in a tin can in the sky with 300 strangers ?
I just thought he was being a hypocrite and saying going to the pub would have killed people but happy to go in a plane for hoursAre they operating at full capacity?
A tin can with lots of strangers also accurately describes the London underground/overground lines at peak times.
Well of course it’s a risk. I hate flying anyway, but I do it because it gives me amazing holidays and memories. However filter system plus everybody wearing a mask is much safer than eating/drinking packed inside with people without masks.What about being in a tin can in the sky with 300 strangers ?
What about being in a tin can in the sky with 300 strangers ?
he didnt say any of that, he had a weak arguementWhere everyone on board will be either double jabbed, or had to produce a negative PCR test before boarding....or both.
And are wearing a mask for the duration.
I'd suggest to do some research into the air circulation on a plane and how it works.
It's also quite laughable to think every plane is operating at capacity. Some will, but most won't.
Very common to have a row to yourself at the moment.
That’s not being a hypocrite - the government should not have opened indoor hospitality - OR HOLIDAY FLIGHTS - until every adult has been offered their first jab. I won’t be doing either until that is the case.I just thought he was being a hypocrite and saying going to the pub would have killed people but happy to go in a plane for hours
he didnt say any of that, he had a weak arguement
FT wont let me post their story howeverWell of course it’s a risk. I hate flying anyway, but I do it because it gives me amazing holidays and memories. However filter system plus everybody wearing a mask is much safer than eating/drinking packed inside with people without masks.
Going out for a drink or something to eat is not worth the risk because the rewards are so small.
You jumped in , i didnt ask for your opinion tbfWith your views on foreign travel and wanting everyone to stay at home, I'm not sure this thread is for you tbh.
Your plane argument is weak, for the reasons I stated.
FT wont let me post their story however
The school’s Aviation Public Health Initiative says that modern planes’ ventilation systems, with their high efficiency particulate air (Hepa) filters, remove more than 99.97 per cent of the nasty stuff, including bacteria and viruses. Its report, published in October, says the result is cleaner air than in our offices or shopping centres.
You jumped in , i didnt ask for your opinion tbf
Nobody is instructing anyone to do anything , aside from him saying people who go to the pub are killing people and to have a long hard look at themselvesYou quoted his post where he replied to me, so it's hardly me jumping in.
I get it, you want everyone to stay put, and will ask rhetorical questions about planes to try and spin it in your favour.
But it's lazy.
I get on a plane right now; depending on the destination, I'll have to be either double vaxxed, or take a PCR test before travel, or possibly both.
In flight, I'll have to wear my mask for the duration. I'll also have to wear my mask before and after.
The above will apply to every single person sat on said plane, regardless of if its operating at 10% or 100% capacity (and many flights are closer to the former than latter these days)
I walk into a pub right now, particularly during the Euros, what am I faced with?
The same unknown people I'd be faced with on a flight, but I won't have any idea of vaccination status, if they'd been recently tested. You're also at the mercy of how strictly the pubs is enforcing the rules (not very strict at a lot of places by all accounts)
I'd likely be surrounded by many different people for many hours depending on how long I'd be there for.
And with the football being broadcast, lots of singing and shouting, with mask wearing almost non-existent because people are always drinking.
I ask you; which is a safer environment?
I can only assume that the minority of people instructing everyone to holiday at home are also instructing everyone to eat and drink at home, otherwise you'd be a massive hypocrite right?
It’s all theatre and show.You quoted his post where he replied to me, so it's hardly me jumping in.
I get it, you want everyone to stay put, and will ask rhetorical questions about planes to try and spin it in your favour.
But it's lazy.
I get on a plane right now; depending on the destination, I'll have to be either double vaxxed, or take a PCR test before travel, or possibly both.
In flight, I'll have to wear my mask for the duration. I'll also have to wear my mask before and after.
The above will apply to every single person sat on said plane, regardless of if its operating at 10% or 100% capacity (and many flights are closer to the former than latter these days)
I walk into a pub right now, particularly during the Euros, what am I faced with?
The same unknown people I'd be faced with on a flight, but I won't have any idea of vaccination status, if they'd been recently tested. You're also at the mercy of how strictly the pubs is enforcing the rules (not very strict at a lot of places by all accounts)
I'd likely be surrounded by many different people for many hours depending on how long I'd be there for.
And with the football being broadcast, lots of singing and shouting, with mask wearing almost non-existent because people are always drinking.
I ask you; which is a safer environment?
I can only assume that the minority of people instructing everyone to holiday at home are also instructing everyone to eat and drink at home, otherwise you'd be a massive hypocrite right?