Coronavirus (2021) thread

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ayrshire_blue said:
Can't they ask? Why have we reached a point where its excusable if not acceptable for drunken idiots to grab people so that they can post a daft video for some likes on the Internet? It's pathetic, being pished doesn't let them off.
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as I say. They deserve punishment.

but they are just a couple of thick planks trying to be funny rather than being threatening, just how I saw it.
 
Daughter threw up in school yesterday so got sent home, rang school this morning to tell them she's better but obviously she'll be in tomorrow not today too be told she can't go back unless she gets a negative pcr test, despite not having any symptoms whatsoever. If she doesn't she's not allowed to go in for 10 days. Go on the government website and she's not eligible for a pcr test.

So now ive got a choice lie on the government website to get my 10 year old a test she doesnt need or let her miss another 10 days of education.

We're never ever going to get out of this shit with these grief junkies desperate for people (kids) to test positive
 
BlueHammer85 said:
as I say. They deserve punishment.

but they are just a couple of thick planks trying to be funny rather than being threatening, just how I saw it.
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The look in Professor Whitty's eyes suggests he saw it as threatening.

As someone who has devoted his life to protecting lives and having devoted the last sixteen months to saving as many as he could, the last thing he needs in a pandemic is to be manhandled by idiots who cannot distinguish between a public official and a public celebrity. The truly depressing thing is that rather than be ashamed of their behavior, they will probably exult in their moment of self-publicized infamy.
 
Not sure if anyone saw the article about Whitty in the Sunday Times magazine. An interesting, if privileged life. Tragically his father, then head of the British Council in Athens, was assassinated when Whitty was 17.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
as I say. They deserve punishment.

but they are just a couple of thick planks trying to be funny rather than being threatening, just how I saw it.
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Not wishing to derail the thread and I'm aware that what I'm about to say will be seen as a huge jump by some, but the same excuses are made for guys behaviour towards females every weekend if not every day. Actions they see as perfectly normal and funny if a bit 'cheeky' when in actual fact it's downright shameful and likely to make them feel intimidated/scared etc. The social media generation in some respects make me cringe.

Not having a dig at you btw BH, but whilst such instances as this are played down they will only escalate when it should be completely intolerable from the get go - and tbf you've suggested they deserve punished which I wholeheartedly agree with.

Anyway, I've said my thoughts on the video so I'll get back on topic from here on, apologies mods.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
as I say. They deserve punishment.

but they are just a couple of thick planks trying to be funny rather than being threatening, just how I saw it.
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That's a bad take that mate. Victims of this kind of thing can be scarred by it. Whitty is probably nervous every time he steps out the door.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
That's a bad take that mate. Victims of this kind of thing can be scarred by it. Whitty is probably nervous every time he steps out the door.
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It's just classic bullying, isn't it.

Fun at someone else's expense.

If Whitty was 6"10 and built like a brick shit house, they wouldn't be doing it, would they?
 
Claytop said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: School isolation rules could end in autumn

Parents' frustration is mounting over the disruption to children's education and their own working lives.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

At some point it has to stop, I mean at what point does testing stop and isolating at home if you have it stop completely anyway?
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It certainly does. More importantly we are clearly getting to the point where we NEED TO let it rip through our schools to give our kids immunity to fight the next variant and the variants after that.
If you haven't already noticed, With each new variant, the virus is becoming more infectious with worse symptoms for younger and younger age cohorts.
Currently the vast majority of children will barely get ill, we need to make sure that continues to be the case and vaccinating kids with new vaccines that haven't been used for a long time isn't really the world' greatest idea.
 
BlueAnorak said:
It certainly does. More importantly we are clearly getting to the point where we NEED TO let it rip through our schools to give our kids immunity to fight the next variant and the variants after that.
If you haven't already noticed, With each new variant, the virus is becoming more infectious with worse symptoms for younger and younger age cohorts.
Currently the vast majority of children will barely get ill, we need to make sure that continues to be the case and vaccinating kids with new vaccines that haven't been used for a long time isn't really the world' greatest idea.
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I’m not so sure that’s the case anymore mate. The new variants are attacking the young instead of the old. It seems to be how they mutate/evolve according to scientists. My youngest has just caught it and is very poorly. He’s a strong, fit and healthy lad with no health issues. He’ll be fine I know but if he had any health issues he could be in trouble. Luckily the school hols might be coming at the right time. I’m all for getting the kids jabbed to before it mutates again and again. It’s a bit gutting as well as I’m now going to miss a much needed lads golf weekend away this weekend because I’m having to isolate but the mum of the lad he caught it off has kept her sandwich shop open and taken her other son to school this morning. Bit of a piss take. I’m sure this is happening all over the country especially amongst the double jabbed community. I’ve been battling with the idea of saying fuck it and going anyway because I’m double jabbed and could get a test before. I know I’d be 99.9% ok, as would everyone I come across but I just can’t do it. I recon at least 50% would though.
 
BlueAnorak said:
It certainly does. More importantly we are clearly getting to the point where we NEED TO let it rip through our schools to give our kids immunity to fight the next variant and the variants after that.
If you haven't already noticed, With each new variant, the virus is becoming more infectious with worse symptoms for younger and younger age cohorts.
Currently the vast majority of children will barely get ill, we need to make sure that continues to be the case and vaccinating kids with new vaccines that haven't been used for a long time isn't really the world' greatest idea.
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Future strains will either be more contagious or they will be vaccine evaders. Interesting that in the UAE, which has a higher rate of vaccination than we do, their most common strain is the strain that has the most escape mutations (Beta).

It might well be that this latest surge ends with mass infection of young people that effectively takes us to herd immunity but it wont last long because for each person that gets infected, you get 0.5 mutations. Mass infection = equals mass mutation. And that leads to a decline in our own immunity.

The only way round this is to get everyone vaccinated, and then to vaccinate again with an adapted up to date vaccine. We're probably not that far away from that now. Astrazeneca and Moderna both in trials with such vaccines.
 
Marvin said:
Future strains will either be more contagious or they will be vaccine evaders. Interesting that in the UAE, which has a higher rate of vaccination than we do, their most common strain is the strain that has the most escape mutations (Beta).

It might well be that this latest surge ends with mass infection of young people that effectively takes us to herd immunity but it wont last long because for each person that gets infected, you get 0.5 mutations. Mass infection = equals mass mutation. And that leads to a decline in our own immunity.

The only way round this is to get everyone vaccinated, and then to vaccinate again with an adapted up to date vaccine. We're probably not that far away from that now. Astrazeneca and Moderna both in trials with such vaccines.
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This is all true, but I think the term 'vaccine evaders' is misleading.

Even against the most deadly mutation, it's very unlikely that the vaccine would offer no protection. It just might drop from 95% protection to 85%.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
Not wishing to derail the thread and I'm aware that what I'm about to say will be seen as a huge jump by some, but the same excuses are made for guys behaviour towards females every weekend if not every day. Actions they see as perfectly normal and funny if a bit 'cheeky' when in actual fact it's downright shameful and likely to make them feel intimidated/scared etc. The social media generation in some respects make me cringe.

Not having a dig at you btw BH, but whilst such instances as this are played down they will only escalate when it should be completely intolerable from the get go - and tbf you've suggested they deserve punished which I wholeheartedly agree with.

Anyway, I've said my thoughts on the video so I'll get back on topic from here on, apologies mods.
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Thank you for making that point.

I think a lot of guys have no awareness of how scary it can be for a woman to be walking on your own as for them it probably usually isn't and they tend not to have to think ahead and assess what is occurring around them or why.

There is a different kind of radar at work with women as everything hasto be assessed as a potential threat or risk. Especially at night.

Years ago I was on a bus in downtown LA and some perv on the bus in broad daylight sat next to me across the aisle even though the bus was near empty. He started to do things. Will leave it to your imagination.

I think a guy would have confronted and even pushed him away or called to the driver, But escape is really the only response here as he was way bigger than me and luckily the bus was coming towards a stop and I just leapt up and got off as fast as possible - stranding me in sone downtown spot but where I had no clue.

Seems illogical to act like that but all that mattered was there was safety in others around me and I had time to think not confront and fight as it could never have been a fair fight,

These things would be very different for a bloke I imagine.
 
Week ending 18 June for the first time since the pandemic started NONE of the 573 deaths in Wales had Covid as a cause on the death certificate.
 
Wales data:

0 deaths - was 0 last week

281 cases - was 175 last week

38 patients - was 44 last week

3 ventilated - was 1 last week
 
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