Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

We have to reach it at some point. Perhaps that is the strategy. Get as many young people vaccinated or infected at a time when the NHS can cope and before the winter.

I suspect that is the case, but they don't want to say it aloud.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital data Part 2

The ventilator numbers over the 4 days for ventilators are:-

From 297 Friday - to 296 Saturday - 315 Sunday and 330 today, A rise of 33.

Last week the numbers went 238 - 236 - 244 - 272. A rise of 34.

Regionally here are the patient and ventilator numbers over the weekend and week to week

NORTH WEST

Patients:- 514 - 506 - 544 - 561 - up 47 of the 277 national rise was 429 - 442 - 466 - 498 - up 69 of the 181 rise.

You can clearly see that though nationally numbers are worse this week in the NW they are actually better. A much smaller proportion of the rise here.

The rises in the Midlands up 65 (254 to 319) and Yorkshire up 70 (252 to 322) are both worse,

London was up 41 to 364,


NORTH WEST

Ventilators: 104 - 94 - 96 - 108 - a good weekend up to today, But up only 4 of the 34 increase.

Last weekend was 87 to 101 - a rise of 14 - so again what looks like a good improvement in the NW.

Midlands up 45 to 55 and Yorkshire up 39 to 49 are the biggest reason the ventilator numbers were up over the long weekend.



Conclusion:- North West not out of it yet by any means as this data lags cases by a week or two.

But the signs are that it is not as bad as it used to be but nationally numbers will go up as other regions are further back on this curve,

 

[Tommy_Catons_Perm]

Big blow for all the conspiracy theorists this lol. No compulsory check-ins, no compulsory vaccinations, no covid passports, no masks or curfews... a few family members told me all this would happen and I was a 'sheep'... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I suppose the conspiracy theorists having nothing to gain and everything to lose now. What would be the point in continuing to believe such nonsense?

I wonder if people that refused to be vaccinated will now change their minds? Or will they continue to risk serious illness and death from covid for the rest of their lives?

 

[SWP's back]

Shock, he’s moaning

 

[paulchapo]

I suppose the conspiracy theorists having nothing to gain and everything to lose now. What would be the point in continuing to believe such nonsense?

I wonder if people that refused to be vaccinated will now change their minds? Or will they continue to risk serious illness and death from covid for the rest of their lives?

I want to be optimistic but you're all forgetting we've been here before. Time for the Echo variant to surface yet.

 

[SWP's back]

I want to be optimistic but you're all forgetting we've been here before. Time for the Echo variant to surface yet.

Last time we didn’t have 2/3 of the country vaccinated, breaking the link between cases and deaths.

 

[Del_Bosque]

Can’t wait for a decent pub crawl

 

[Healdplace]

UK hospital data:


PATIENTS:

N Ireland 32 - up from 16 last week

Scotland 338 - up from 202 last week

Wales 50 - up from 42 last week



Total 410 - was 260 last week. Big rise here too,


UK PATIENTS TOTAL 2298 - was 1725 last week


VENTILATORS:

N Ireland 1 - was 2 last week.

Scotland 30 - was 20 last week

Wales 4 - was 3 last week



Total 35 - 25 last week.


UK VENTILATORS TOTAL 365 - was 297 last week

 

[bluenova]

Last time we didn’t have 2/3 of the country vaccinated, breaking the link between cases and deaths.

weakening the link between cases and deaths.

I'd probably be a little more cautious - masks on trams etc., work from home if you want to and can, and no harm in just being a little more careful, but the figures do look like the link is now weak enough to mostly open up.

Can't wait to go to a gig!

 

[splinter]

"Just say no" to drugs, Splinter. My 20 year old recommends Satan's Hollow on Silver St off Princess St for "old folk". I might take him up on that when I'm pissed.

It's 20 years since I was in there ;)

 

[Rammy Blue]

weakening the link between cases and deaths.

I'd probably be a little more cautious - masks on trams etc., work from home if you want to and can, and no harm in just being a little more careful, but the figures do look like the link is now weak enough to mostly open up.

Can't wait to go to a gig!

Never mind a gig, I’ll raise you a full Etihad.

 

[mcfcinprague]

Can’t wait for a decent pub brawl

Odds on that this'll be happening across the UK! :)

 

[paulchapo]

Last time we didn’t have 2/3 of the country vaccinated, breaking the link between cases and deaths.

Fingers crossed.

 

[west didsblue]

I want to be optimistic but you're all forgetting we've been here before. Time for the Echo variant to surface yet.

It’s the Greek alphabet being used not the phonetic one :-)

Or is the Echo variant going to be restricted to Liverpool?

 

[BlueAnorak]

England hospital data Part 2

The ventilator numbers over the 4 days for ventilators are:-

From 297 Friday - to 296 Saturday - 315 Sunday and 330 today, A rise of 33.

Last week the numbers went 238 - 236 - 244 - 272. A rise of 34.

Regionally here are the patient and ventilator numbers over the weekend and week to week

NORTH WEST

Patients:- 514 - 506 - 544 - 561 - up 47 of the 277 national rise was 429 - 442 - 466 - 498 - up 69 of the 181 rise.

You can clearly see that though nationally numbers are worse this week in the NW they are actually better. A much smaller proportion of the rise here.

The rises in the Midlands up 65 (254 to 319) and Yorkshire up 70 (252 to 322) are both worse,

London was up 41 to 364,


NORTH WEST

Ventilators: 104 - 94 - 96 - 108 - a good weekend up to today, But up only 4 of the 34 increase.

Last weekend was 87 to 101 - a rise of 14 - so again what looks like a good improvement in the NW.

Midlands up 45 to 55 and Yorkshire up 39 to 49 are the biggest reason the ventilator numbers were up over the long weekend.



Conclusion:- North West not out of it yet by any means as this data lags cases by a week or two.

But the signs are that it is not as bad as it used to be but nationally numbers will go up as other regions are further back on this curve,

The reason why opening up in 2 weeks is the way forward. QED.

 

[True_Blue69]

Anyone recommend any nightclubs for over 45s on the 19th
..any decent pills knocking about these days

The white hotel has just announced a 54 hour party see how long you can last.

 

[BobKowalski]

weakening the link between cases and deaths.

I'd probably be a little more cautious - masks on trams etc., work from home if you want to and can, and no harm in just being a little more careful, but the figures do look like the link is now weak enough to mostly open up.

Can't wait to go to a gig!

Yeah, basically this is a punt. No one knows if it will be okay or not because no one has any hard data.

Fingers crossed it turns out okay.

 

[SWP's back]

weakening the link between cases and deaths.

I'd probably be a little more cautious - masks on trams etc., work from home if you want to and can, and no harm in just being a little more careful, but the figures do look like the link is now weak enough to mostly open up.

Can't wait to go to a gig!

Breaking

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Hopefully, this decision will put a rocket up the arses of some of those who’ve delayed getting vaccinated. Obviously, the full on loons won’t be getting jabbed.

 

[bluenova]

Breaking

I suspect that has a lot to do with the US attitudes to vaccination/covid in different areas - and Fauci makes the point that a lot of this is down to people choosing not to get vaccinated/follow rules.

In the UK, where (I believe) there's less variation in vaccination rates and rule following, it's nowhere near 99%.

Vaccinated people sometimes die of Covid-19—but very rarely – Full Fact

Many of the most at-risk people have been vaccinated, which is why figures from Public Health England show that some have still died.

fullfact.org