I think Marv, from the article you posted the other day, the key is that new vaccines need to go through clinical trials again so it’s not necessarily the easy option. You can’t just update the current ones. Memory serves me right Pfizer were looking to enter the trials with their updated vaccine in August but not sure how long it takes to get approval or whether it’s the same 6 months or so as previous.Europe also slowing down in terms of vaccination rates. I think at last everyone is largely in agreement now, just a litle dispute on how quickly the controls are lifted. I don't actually understand why it makes such a big difference to hospitalisations and deaths but the models apparently suggest it does. Perhaps its because if you lift restrictions slowly you still have benefit from ongoing vaccination/infection, whereas if you do it one big bang, there's less opportunity for immunity to resist infection?
What's left for me is progress on new vaccines. I do hope that when we do the boosters we use up to date vaccinaes or we are going to get awfully tired with one vaccination after another. It's unlikely this is going to stop evolving so I think PHE would be wise to give max possible consideration to vaccinating with latest vaccines. I do accept though that they must have good reasons to do whatever they decide. As long as the whole thing is controlled by science and not the private profits of pharmaceutical companies, that's fine.
There's a Cov-boost trial underway I believe but I think it's largely using pre-existing vaccines. Moderna and GSK have their own trials that are underway based on SA variant. I think you are right trials are needed but I thought if a pre-existing vaccine had been distributed that they would be Phase I/II trials and not the very lengthy trials. We'll see.I think Marv, from the article you posted the other day, the key is that new vaccines need to go through clinical trials again so it’s not necessarily the easy option. You can’t just update the current ones. Memory serves me right Pfizer were looking to enter the trials with their updated vaccine in August but not sure how long it takes to get approval or whether it’s the same 6 months or so as previous.
All the data on GM and NW I have been posting daily for weeks here shows that GM was a MUCH bigger factor at the start of this wave in the NW region numbers and has fallen a lot since.That sounds familiar. I was just suggesting that it could peak earlier in the North West. It's unlikely to proceed uniformly across the UK. I posted the Bolton and London cases up above somewhere and you can see quite a gap in time between the onset of the waves. I am expecting it to peak in Gtr Manchester before it peaks nationally but I haven't really got anything more to say than that. All guesswork.
Won't it be like flu vaccines. I don't think they update them until the summer and have them ready for October roll out.I think Marv, from the article you posted the other day, the key is that new vaccines need to go through clinical trials again so it’s not necessarily the easy option. You can’t just update the current ones. Memory serves me right Pfizer were looking to enter the trials with their updated vaccine in August but not sure how long it takes to get approval or whether it’s the same 6 months or so as previous.
That sounds familiar. I was just suggesting that it could peak earlier in the North West. It's unlikely to proceed uniformly across the UK. I posted the Bolton and London cases up above somewhere and you can see quite a gap in time between the onset of the waves. I am expecting it to peak in Gtr Manchester before it peaks nationally but I haven't really got anything more to say than that. All guesswork.
Can you explain what these figures are please?ZOE GREATER MANCHESTER DATA
Manchester now top on 17, 551 - up from 13, 466
Salford just behind on 16, 058 - down from 18, 294
Wigan next on 13, 354 - up from 12, 969
Trafford the only other in 5 figures - on 12, 256 - down from 12, 590
Bury next on 9963 - up from 9932
Stockport has risen up the ranks lately to 7659 - up from 6714 yesterday
Bolton next on 6056 - down big from 10, 324
Oldham next - unlike its real cases low down the list not top - on 5884 - up from 5812
Rochdale second bottom not second top as in real cases - on 3877 - up from 3579
And best of all Tameside on 3517 - well down from 5052.
They are a Zoe measure of active cases per million population.Can you explain what these figures are please?
Are these the total number of cases since the pandemic began please & what is Zoe?
I'm sorry to hear you're immune-compromised. I don't mean any of this personally, I know it must be quite worrying for you.I don't get your point. respiratory season happens either way. Get more jabbed now, save lives. Flu jab will happen anyway. Opening up now will cause more deaths than not. We have a vaccine. Opening up now is simply because that dick in charge has backed himself into a corner and he is scared of bad press from a minority than saving peoples lives. The majority of the country think like this, all polls prove it but just like some of the morons on here, idiots shout loudest.
Opening up now instead of waiting for the vaccines to be fully done WILL cost people there lives, people immune compromised like me and others with co morbidities. That is a fact. Some are willing for those people to die because they don't want to wait. We aren't even really in lockdown compared to the past.
It's still rising though which isn't a good sign. Not that we should be scared. But we should be vigilant and sensible.36,660 new cases.
It certainly isn’t growing exponentially.