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[Kippax77]

I imagine the media will be full of this tomorrow...Point deductions and title removals.....

Maureen is desperate to be given a Premier League title as uShiteds manager after his "greatest managerial achievement" of coming 2nd to us

 

[Cobwebcat]

This is the not time barred article. Whether it is supersedes the general law re what can be heard I’ve no idea.

Premier League investigation into Man City finances ongoing despite CAS appeal win

Exclusive: CAS ruled that allegations against City were either 'not established or time-barred' - but Premier League has no time restriction

inews.co.uk

 

[kaz7]

It is exhausting fending off attack after attack, not to mention how much it is costing , can we just have a break, hopefully the americans wont win this either

 

[Cobwebcat]

Man City lose appeal over secrecy of Premier League FFP investigation

A decision by the Court of Appeal has revealed details of the league's own disciplinary action against Manchester City

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Cobwebcat]

It is astonishing that after 2.5 years this is still going and is at an early stage.

Only the lawyers winning these battles.

 

[Cobwebcat]

It’s in the UEFA regulations that CAS are the ultimate arbiters. Unless it’s also in the Premier League regulations, which it doesn’t appear to be, they have no basis on which they can hear the case

Yes unless both sides agree…which they might. You have a point though.

 

[Damanino]

This is never gonna go away is it?
Even if nothing happens to City, still gives ammunition to Delaney brigade to throw more and more mud at City. They even made sure to paint the CAS decision as City got off lightly instead of being innocent.

every fucking season there is new turn of the same story and it is just not going away.

 

[Chris in London]

Surely whatever happens with the PL review, it will end up with CAS. The PL financial rules are less stringent that those from UEFA so I don’t really see anything earth shattering coming out if this.

I don’t think so.

The PL’s rules say that if there is a dispute between the club and the PL that they can’t sort out themselves it will be referred to Arbitration. When you become a member of the league you agree to arbitration automatically.

Arbitration is a recognised procedure within English law. There are only limited ways in which the outcome of an arbitration can be challenged. If it can be challenged it must be to the a High Court. There are even fewer grounds to appeal from the High Court to the Court of Appeal.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport can be accessed when the parties have agreed that it can. That isn’t the case here.

 

[Woody135]

I don't know about the 'easily win' bit, that case cost us a shed full of money including legal fees.

If they were really good theyd have had uefa pay the costs

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

If this was going to be a sensation then the press and media would be all over it , more bull shit from the City hating American ownerships. Truth of the matter is were so f ing rich they hate us and if football wasnt corrupt we would be able to spend what we like on what and who we like.

Really? I’d be concerned that the reverse is true. The media leaking like a sieve last time around, played into our hands. The fact that they’re keeping their powder dry this time could be seen as worrying

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I don’t think so.

The PL’s rules say that if there is a dispute between the club and the PL that they can’t sort out themselves it will be referred to Arbitration. When you become a member of the league you agree to arbitration automatically.

Arbitration is a recognised procedure within English law. There are only limited ways in which the outcome of an arbitration can be challenged. If it can be challenged it must be to the a High Court. There are even fewer grounds to appeal from the High Court to the Court of Appeal.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport can be accessed when the parties have agreed that it can. That isn’t the case here.

I think that;s right. A quick keyword search in the PL handbook (current one) shows no occurence of "court of arbitration"

 

[slbsn]

Stephan (@projectriver) concluded "it unlikely a 6 year limitation under the Limitaion Act 1980 does NOT apply to the PL rules and the the limitaion is 6 years from breach and not the evidence.

The 1st year of PL cost controls was 2013/2014.

CAS looked as far as 2015/2016 but some of the earlier stuff 2011/12 and, I think, 2012/13 was time barred.

Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged. I'm confident the Limitation Act will still apply unless the PL accuse City of deception - even then the bar is high under the recent caselaw.

 

[Chris in London]

I think that;s right. A quick keyword search in the PL handbook (current one) shows no occurence of "court of arbitration"

Then again, a quick search of the referee's handbook doesn't show any occurrence of 'competence.'

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged. I'm confident the Limitation Act will still apply unless the PL accuse City of deception - even then the bar is high under the recent caselaw.

Thks and I've just seen I've spelt your name wrong - apologies :)

 

[Metalartin]

Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged. I'm confident the Limitation Act will still apply unless the PL accuse City of deception - even then the bar is high under the recent caselaw.

This... I think...

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

What is clear is that someone from the PL hierarchy has given Javier Tebas a steer in advance of this information being released. He made those loaded comments about City and the CAS legal action suggesting "it's not over" a couple of weeks ago. He couldn't have got it from City's lawyers or the judge. So someone in a senior position at the PL has leaked it, probably to one of our commercial rivals, who has then briefed Tebas. That tells you a lot. I don't believe in co-incidences.

 

[maurizio]

Never have liked all this legal stuff as it all originally seemed to start with certain parties trying to construct rules specifically to catch us and so it's no wonder we find ourselves still fighting them. Trying to get my head round "Remember limitation can't apply if they haven't even been charged" from the reliable @projectriver . Is this good from a City point of view?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Thanks.

Im sure that it was reported that while UEFA has a time bar the PL doesn’t.

Sounds like neither party really want this anymore but have to complete the process.

And yet the Premier League briefed the Liverpool computer hack was water under the bridge and not worthy of an investigation...

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

SSN no yellow banner about the cheats someone needs to ring Ashton

Neil Ashton was more a hire for Woodward than United.

 

[Cobwebcat]

And yet the Premier League briefed the Liverpool computer hack was water under the bridge and not worthy of an investigation...

We didn’t seem to mind and banked £1 million. We should have taken them to the cleaners.

There would be a lot of pressure on the PL to get City. Am I right in remembering only United and Liverpool were allowed to interview for PL vacancies…or was that The FA?

I doubt it’s a battle that the PL wanted but was forced on them by the Americans.