Spurs (A) | Post-Match Thread

It’s not the end of the world with us only being 1 game in and I’m sure we will bounce back next week.
However that left side of the defence with Ake and Mendy is genuinely bottom half PL quality. We cannot play them two together against top sides or else we’ll get murdered.
 
Semper aggressus said:
It happens too often that we don’t seem to be up for it. Too many soft arses in the team. If we don’t score in the first 20 mins heads seem to drop, and once the opposition grows and gets a few chances we get progressively worse.

Our record for winning from a goal down is fucking abysmal, it’s embarrassing for a team of our stature. Unless we can score first we seem to give teams hope that actually we can be quite shit and slow, plus we’re never helped by the officials.

We‘re in danger of becoming flat track bullies. Watch us hit 4 against Norwich next week, even if we still d have Kane. Torres will score and all the happy clappers will bury their heads in the sand again.

The last three games we’ve played, all against good or very good teams, we’ve been fucking shit, and soft. Not good enough.
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Won 3 of last 4 league titles with soft arses. Would probably win 6 out of 4 league titles if we had hard arses.
 
Last season started badly until Pep adjusted defensively then suddenly our unbeaten run kicked in.
When we had virtually won the PL we then took a few matches before we actually got those few points. Whether we relaxed or not I don't know but those last few matches were not the way how we won the PL.

I think this season has players who feel the attitude of the end of last season will be enough.

Maybe fitness or even dare I say an inability to recreate our start of the winning streak. However if certain players unfit why play them?
 
Marvin said:
I doubt it. We were miles off the intensity required to win that game. I watched all the games this weekend and everyone else was right on it. We weren't. It was the exact same last season. You can get away with it if you have an opening game but we've played at Wembley and Spurs and been well beaten on both occasions.
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It's this that is missing from MCFC and not just the fellahs. 65% possession and it is slow, predictable and very easy to defend against. It is frustrating to see other teams putting away poorer chances than we create. I look at some of the games against these teams from previous seasons and everything is done with a bit of pace. One goal we scored in the 1-5 on the OS last week involved about five one-touch passes before the ball is rifled into the net.
 
Thought we where a bit hectic and to individual play! Mendy ache Cancelo to flaky for me and it’s Weird how we have so many world class players who can kill a ball from 1000 feet drop but can’t hit a ball on target!
 
mscenterh750 said:
There really is no need to worry, 37 games left and the boys will soon be up to speed and with a returning Stones, Walker, Kev and Zinchenko we’ll be much better at the back.

I really don’t understand the need to flap, panic and slate the players.

Let the rags, dippers and chavs enjoy their weekend wins, because I can guarantee we’ll finish above them all in May.
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No fuck them
 
willipp said:
Defo shows we can’t afford to lose Laporte at all. If we do and have to rely on Ake for any large part we are fucked.

Mendy is just a disgrace, he isn’t a footballer. Cancelo is an ok backup
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Agree, we can't let Laporte go, stop being so nice, Bernardo should be starting also
 
sky_blue said:
Won 3 of last 4 league titles with soft arses. Would probably win 6 out of 4 league titles if we had hard arses.
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We‘d may well have won the CL and an extra FA Cup. Plus we’d have won the leagues we did by a lot more points I reckon.

It’s not just the haul of trophies though, it’s attitude on the pitch. We often seem to look like heads go down too much when we concede, and too meekly accepting blatantly cheating refereeing decisions.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Last season started badly until Pep adjusted defensively then suddenly our unbeaten run kicked in.
When we had virtually won the PL we then took a few matches before we actually got those few points. Whether we relaxed or not I don't know but those last few matches were not the way how we won the PL.

I think this season has players who feel the attitude of the end of last season will be enough.

Maybe fitness or even dare I say an inability to recreate our start of the winning streak. However if certain players unfit why play them?
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The only part of last season that we were consistently good in was the middle bit. We had a tight defence then and that included defending from the front. When we go gung-ho, we leave ourselves vulnerable to the counter attack as we did yesterday and our players were slow to get back. Rags, Leeds, Chelsea x 3 all took advantage of this at the end of last season and we also shipped 3 goals to Newcastle and Brighton! We need to tighten up our defending and do what we did well last season. Our quality should always come out on top in a tight game but if we go behind we just don’t seem to have the answers.
 
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If that was our regular team we would have won that game. Walker Stones Zinc KDB from the start. Sterling is a waste of time too. Lack of fitness was obvious too. It’s a marathon not a sprint and it all changes once CL kicks in.
 
Semper aggressus said:
We‘d may well have won the CL and an extra FA Cup. Plus we’d have won the leagues we did by a lot more points I reckon.

It’s not just the haul of trophies though, it’s attitude on the pitch. We often seem to look like heads go down too much when we concede, and too meekly accepting blatantly cheating refereeing decisions.
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If we had better players and a better manager, we would have won everything in the last 4 seasons, including winning the league with more than a 100 points by your reckoning. Fair enough mate. I don't think I've anything more to add to this discussion.
 
paulchapo said:
It's not though is it? The system works otherwise we wouldn't have won numerous trophies and broken countless records using it. Like all systems though it's not infallibile, none is. If one was then a team would win every game and all the trophies they competed for.

Players have off days, make mistakes, your opponent just plays a fantastic game and you lose. It happens. Yesterday in spite of having some key players missing and struggling with a lack of a proper pre season we still should have been at least ,3-0 up in the first 20 minutes. Pep can't put those chances away, nor can he defend better as Ake should have for their goal. Sure it was a counter attack that undid us, but we could play a more defensive system and still lose. I'll agree against certain teams he should be a little more pragmatic at times but he seems to be doing that now.
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Don't disagree with much of what you've said but I'd replace Pep not being infallible rather than the system.

The most frustrating thing for me is you can almost predict by the rhythm of play how the game is going to end. Once they overcame our early onslaught we played at walking pace for the rest of the game.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
What excuses did Mendy, Ake and Cancelo have, certainly wasn't tiredness.

Horrible from so many but the glaring issue remains and a top striker would have made little difference today.

The defensive midfield is too slow when the ball breaks down.

Fern still sees the danger but his legs can't get him there.

Gundo, Rodri, nobody solves this issue right now, certainly when we want to front load the top half of the pitch.

Thought Grealish was a real positive.
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Exactly how I saw it
 
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