Ederson and Jesus cleared to play (Pg 63)

Isn't there an issue here with us being unable to pick a substitute keeper? Or can the match carry on regardless?
 
The legal ramifications on this could be huge! I get the normal rulings about players having to be released if they are fit etc and city have never stopped a player going? There has never been a pandemic in recent times either though and the players who went would have to self isolate an extra two weeks I believe after they returned? Absolute nonsense and FIFA are truly fucked in the head if they think they can enforce this imo.
 
Gaudion M said:
2 Things here.

FIFA make all there money from internationals and FIFA are the top body so they can enforce this rule via UEFA - via the FA if they want to push it.

Brazil are a political horror show right now. I suspect the same snide conspiracy/anti mask BS that is gripping America is involved somewhere here. Nothing to back that up but it's the kind of BS they would pull
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Well there is the Trump/Bolsonaro link and the whole S american football governance has been a shambles for years.
I think they showed themselves up with the way the health officals marched onto the pitch and could clearly have been done in a better way....a horror show is certainly the correct term
 
Surely the clubs hold the cards here? They're our players. We spent tens of millions on them, we pay their wages, we look after their every need. If we don't want to put them at risk then surely that is our right?

Especially not wanting to send them to a country that has let Covid run riot and seemingly don't care about the lives of their own citizens. If FIFA uphold this it would be beyond a joke and I would say legal action should be looked into.
 
Let's see what happens but fuckin Ronaldo takes his shirt off, gets booked and then given permission to return to his Club as he is banned for the next game.

That is corrupt!
 
RandomJ said:
Surely the clubs hold the cards here? They're our players. We spent tens of millions on them, we pay their wages, we look after their every need. If we don't want to put them at risk then surely that is our right?

Especially not wanting to send them to a country that has let Covid run riot and seemingly don't care about the lives of their own citizens. If FIFA uphold this it would be beyond a joke and I would say legal action should be looked into.
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I'm afraid not. From what I believe, national associations have first call on players. The fact that clubs pay their wages and look after their every need doesn't matter. If, for example, Martinez wants KDB for a game, he gets him. And if we claim he's injured and unavailable, the Belgian FA can insist that their medical team examine him. In this situation, however, I thought that FIFA (or UEFA; two cheeks of the same arse) had said that clubs were allowed to withhold players if they were going to be travelling to a red list country?
 
jimharri said:
I'm afraid not. From what I believe, national associations have first call on players. The fact that clubs pay their wages and look after their every need doesn't matter. If, for example, Martinez wants KDB for a game, he gets him. And if we claim he's injured and unavailable, the Belgian FA can insist that their medical team examine him. In this situation, however, I thought that FIFA (or UEFA; two cheeks of the same arse) had said that clubs were allowed to withhold players if they were going to be travelling to a red list country?
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I don't get that Jim... Although it's quite rare, as I understand it, players have the right to decline to ever play for their national team if they don't want to. As far as I know, they're not actually contracted to the national association. I'm prepared to be educated to the contrary!
Your comment suggests that a national association has some sort of hold on players regardless of club contracts.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I don't get that Jim... Although it's quite rare, as I understand it, players have the right to decline to ever play for their national team if they don't want to. As far as I know, they're not actually contracted to the national association. I'm prepared to be educated to the contrary!
Your comment suggests that a national association has some sort of hold on players regardless of club contracts.
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I'm not sure what the situation is if the player refuses to hook up with his national team. I was thinking of the association calling him up, and the club refusing to release him.
 
jimharri said:
I'm not sure what the situation is if the player refuses to hook up with his national team. I was thinking of the association calling him up, and the club refusing to release him.
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Can football players ignore a summons for the national team?

Rinsey Kong's answer: Yes. But they can be punished by Fifa. If the player plainly refuse or don't come without his federation approval, explicit or not, the federation can ask Fifa to fine the player and worst, suspend him. Example, Matip refused to play for Cameroon against the federation wil...
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Cobwebcat said:
Absolutely.

Hmmm FIFA being ridiculous….It’s like proposing a World Cup every 2 years instead of 4 years they would have to out of their minds…Or a Winter WC in a boiling hot country which nobody will go to mid season.

Wait a minute….. ;-)
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Maybe a club world cup every summer for every runner up too?
This Fifa malarky is a piece of piss
 
Legacyfan1986 said:
Maybe a club world cup every summer for every runner up too?
This Fifa malarky is a piece of piss
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Well they could easily do World Cup 2 for the teams that can't qualify for the proper one (Scotland and the like). And if you win it, you automatically qualify for the next World Cup, kinda like the Europa League. Maybe you could even have teams that get knocked out in the group stages of the World Cup dropping into World Cup 2. And then you could have the classic sight of formerly top teams winning it and desperately trying to convince themselves that it's an important trophy even though they're only in it because they were too shit for the proper competition.

I'd better stop now, or they're probably try and do it.
 
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