Keir Starmer

[bluejon]

I take the WTF is the moderators rule and not the corbyn going all gallagher on each other and causing a scene between them.

If so it really isn't a WTF moment, many of the fringe events will be on a certain subject and will be aimed at giving certain voices a chance to be heard if this was such aimed at women and people of colour, others males and non people of colour attending woyld know that and be fime with it, it is not some plan to obstruct debate or inclusion. Of the clip I saw plenty of white males are there so no one seems to be censored or arsed about the terms of the event.

Well bar an anti vax climate change denying loon and his mate.

If the WTF was for cobyn on cobyn, well both are bellends anyway.

I'd argue those rules are completely counter productive to any furthering of agendas the participants are trying to make simply due to the instant negative press those rules generate.

 

[urban genie]

Look like my CLP is gonna get another suspension for not kowtowing to the new labour 2.0 rules




Mandy and Starmzy won't be having any of this lark no wonder some in the PLP want to scrap the conference.

 

[Saddleworth2]

She’s in a position of power and influence and should act responsible and professional at all times.

If everyone in politics used words like that to attack the opposition it would be all out anarchy before long.

I certainly don’t want anyone in power who will calling people scum, regardless if she is correct or not.

Johnson has been a lot more offensive and is in power. Maybe some straight talking will work for once.

 

[urban genie]

I'd argue those rules are completely counter productive to any furthering of agendas the participants are trying to make simply due to the instant negative press those rules generate.

What negative press though? Could only be purposely created where it doesn't exist as
it's a fringe event, no press go to them unless they looking to make a negative story.

Freedom to not attend if you disagree with the structure is there, if I was at confrenece and wanted to hear the discussion but was told I couldn't join in would I give a swerve? Maybe

But for a jourbalist you would have to be pretty petty and small minded to go there just to score points at an event no one not attending gives a shit about.

 

[hilts]

Wow.

How is that Tory politicians get voted into power no matter what they say, past or present and yet Labour politicians have to be sieved for 'the right stuff' to be vote worthy?

Utter UTTER rubbish and why the public vote against their own interests every single time once the MSM have a say on who is "worthy" and who is not.

Every. Single. Time.

I don't and won't vote Tory fella, you would need to ask tory voters if you can find many who admit to it. Small percentages decide elections.

 

[hilts]

She should stick to joking about bombing opposition member’s hotel rooms, right?

Oddly enough that has been put in the Tory thread and the dumb dick even apologised whoever the hell he is.

The old someone from the opposite side to my political stance has done summat deflection.

Imagine people discussing a possible replacement for Starmer in the Keith Starmer thread.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Oddly enough that has been put in the Tory thread and the dumb dick even apologised whoever the hell he is.

The old someone from the opposite side to my political stance has done summat deflection.

When the rich slash the income of the poor, and push 2 million into foodbanks, and stop school meals, and increase homelessness by 4000%, that's just "politics", and absolutely fine.

When the poor call the rich a bad name for doing it, that's "class politics", and unacceptable.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The Guardian reporting that Piers Corbyn has been chucked out of Jeremy Corbyn’s fringe meeting for asking a question. The moderator ruled that only women and people of colour could ask questions.

WTF????

Probably wanting to avoid him de-railing the meeting and ranting on about how vaccines kill and that Covid-19 is just a cold.

 

[bluethrunthru]

She’s in a position of power and influence and should act responsible and professional at all times.

If everyone in politics used words like that to attack the opposition it would be all out anarchy before long.

I certainly don’t want anyone in power who will calling people scum, regardless if she is correct or not.

But its ok to talk in terms of picaninnies with watermelon smiles, letter boxes and tank topped bum boys? Thats statesman like - real respect in those words................

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Oddly enough that has been put in the Tory thread and the dumb dick even apologised whoever the hell he is.

The old someone from the opposite side to my political stance has done summat deflection.

Imagine people discussing a possible replacement for Starmer in the Keith Starmer thread.

There isn't currently a leadership election, can't it go in the Labour Party thread instead?

 

[hilts]

When the rich slash the income of the poor, and push 2 million into foodbanks, and stop school meals, and increase homelessness by 4000%, that's just "politics", and absolutely fine.

When the poor call the rich a bad name for doing it, that's "class politics", and unacceptable.

Who has said it’s fine? Show me the posts please. Show me the posts where the poor have been attacked for calling the rich a bad name.

The point is it’s probably not a great idea for a Labour politician especially a high ranking one to be caught calling Tories scum. That is all and nothing more. This thread is a good example of what I’m talking about. Those defending her are gonna be Labour supporters in the main. labour have these people wrapped up. Why bother preaching to your own crowd.

Another poster has said the MSM con people into voting against Labour so if that’s true why give them ammunition?

So in both points if we want rid of the Tories Labour need to be cleverer about it. Their image is tainted with sections of society that they need to vote for them.

We could just ignore this though and let the Tory scum keep fucking up peoples lives.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Look like my CLP is gonna get another suspension for not kowtowing to the new labour 2.0 rules




Mandy and Starmzy won't be having any of this lark no wonder some in the PLP want to scrap the conference.

Sounds like he wants to get kicked out by his choice of words.

 

[hilts]

But its ok to talk in terms of picaninnies with watermelon smiles, letter boxes and tank topped bum boys? Thats statesman like - real respect in those words................

Who has said that, god some of you are daft.

 

[urban genie]

Sounds like he wants to get kicked out by his choice of words.

Think some.believe this is either the last conference or the last one they will be allowed to voice their opinion so are all letting it out.
Apparently JVLs Leah Lavane was expelled and removed from conference early this morning without notice and escorted from the building and hotel, which has some members thinking speak now or not be heard

 

[bluethrunthru]

Who has said that, god some of you are daft.

All comments made by our current PM fella - why is it daft to have a brain and use it?

 

[blueish swede]

Look like my CLP is gonna get another suspension for not kowtowing to the new labour 2.0 rules




Mandy and Starmzy won't be having any of this lark no wonder some in the PLP want to scrap the conference.

What a clown. "I'm a socialist and a Marxist". He should be out of the party by the end of the day.

 

[west didsblue]

It’s funny that on the one hand some people want our politicians to say it as it is and when they do they start complaining about it.

In reality it really doesn’t matter what politicians say these days, it’s all about what gets reported in the major news outlets, and they will take anything they want out of context to meet their own agenda.

 

[hilts]

All comments made by our current PM fella - why is it daft to have a brain and use it?

No you silly sod who has said it was okay for him to say it, I even started a thread on the dickhead because of it so who has defended him.

Anyhow golf is on and the usual must defend my side and deflect everything onto the other lot doesn’t interest me anymore. It’s been the usual trait of certain posters for years.

 

[hilts]

It’s funny that on the one hand some people want our politicians to say it as it is and when they do they start complaining about it.

In reality it really doesn’t matter what politicians say these days, it’s all about what gets reported in the major news outlets, and they will take anything they want out of context to meet their own agenda.

You think all Tories are scum?

 

[west didsblue]

You think all Tories are scum?

Nope. Just members of the government that keep lying.