Keir Starmer

urban genie said:
Look like my CLP is gonna get another suspension for not kowtowing to the new labour 2.0 rules




Mandy and Starmzy won't be having any of this lark no wonder some in the PLP want to scrap the conference.
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Brilliant. Short, sweet and to the point.

The "your guy lost" mob don't understand it's not about the politician, but about the policies of change.

The very definition of madness is to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result and yet this country is suckered into that habit, time and again.
 
Bigga said:
@bluethrunthru and I are making exactly the same point.

Why is the true Labour politician held to account for soft words when there are Tories whose masks slip about their real feelings and yet are given a pass to be in power?
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I’m not repeating myself forever here, they haven’t been given a pass there is a massive thread on Johnson and the Tory party. I started one of them. If she keeps on with it she will be known as the gobby woman who thinks Tories are scum.
That will be brought up at election time, it will be in peoples minds who have caught the headlines. None of this stuff matters to people who vote Labour ie people like you for instance

None of it matters to people who always vote Tory. It will affect how some in the middle think though. Whether we like it or not how you present yourself to those whose votes you need matters.

She should just use her noggin otherwise she is helping the Tory ‘scum’ she wants rid of. Which is ironic. Labour have an image problem in middle England this won’t help.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
She should stick to joking about bombing opposition member’s hotel rooms, right?
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No she should stick to being professional and responsible and attack them in this way with facts and a plan of change rather than stooping to their level.

The tories are scum but it’s not for her or her party to tell us that otherwise progress won’t happen.

I want our political parties to fight for our votes by telling us how they will improve things not by pathetic name calling. All it does is divide.
 
bluethrunthru said:
But its ok to talk in terms of picaninnies with watermelon smiles, letter boxes and tank topped bum boys? Thats statesman like - real respect in those words................
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This is the whole fucking point of what she said is wrong. This is what it causes.

It doesn’t fucking matter what they have said or done, it doesn’t give her credibility to stoop down to their level and call them scum otherwise you have two sets of groups calling each other names without getting anything done and people like you lap it all up as some sort of tribal game.
 
west didsblue said:
Nope. Just members of the government that keep lying.
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Shame that won’t be the view that has come from her remarks. Someone needs to tell her that she can be as childish as she wants in a closed union or Labour meeting with no chance of it being plastered all over the media. She did it in the commons as well I believe. She’s not very bright.

Good luck in the next election guys.
 
mexico1970 said:
It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that these idiots are serious.
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I've been a member of the Labour Party for over 40 years, but no longer. The party is utterly fucked, convulsed by internal divisions, led by a weak, duplicitous, Pound Shop Blair, a man who simultaneously believes in nothing and everything.
 
hilts said:
Shame that won’t be the view that has come from her remarks. Someone needs to tell her that she can be as childish as she wants in a closed union or Labour meeting with no chance of it being plastered all over the media. She did it in the commons as well I believe. She’s not very bright.

Good luck in the next election guys.
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Just seen it on the news. Difficult to tell if she was referring to Tories in general or the government in particular. Either way, you’re right that it’s a distraction that Labour don’t need and right leaning elements of the media will make the most of making the comments totally counterproductive.
 
urban genie said:
I am gonna guess he wasn't and has transitioned physically and legally so is seen/classed a man now, just one still with a cervix and menstrual cycle.
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If he has transitioned physically he won't be having a menstrual cycle or producing menses, after a certain period transmen are usually infertile as long as they take testosterone.
 
Fode N The Hole said:
If he has transitioned physically he won't be having a menstrual cycle or producing menses, after a certain period transmen are usually infertile as long as they take testosterone.
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Well I don't know him so have no idea, but some fully transitioned f2m still get pelvic pains even years after on a cycle
 
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