The winter of discontent

bluethrunthru said:
Guess what? Its not 150 its only 80 - and not driven by the Army - how long will people fall for these lies and shite?

www.bbc.co.uk

Petrol supply: Reserve fuel tankers on the road to help boost deliveries

The business secretary denies there is a crisis in supplies and says the situation is "stabilising".
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Oh, the lies are long and hard and it depresses me when you think about all the bullshit our privately educated leaders spout time after time.

They are lying through their fucking teeth on national TV with every interview, with every PMQ's, with every answer in the House of Commons to any question about anything . The Ministerial code of conduct means nothing anymore, their grateful friends have transferred millions into their offshore bank accounts after being awarded multi million pound contracts for delivering nothing of any substance during the pandemic and they have refused to disclose any information regarding those contracts.

They have suppressed the report into Russian interference in British elections and the referendum in particular. They have suppressed publication of their impact assessment called 'Yellow Hammer' on the affects leaving the EU would have on the UK which accurately predicted everything that has happened since we left the EU, and tonight on Question Time, a tory minister said there won't be shortages of anything at Christmas, despite every single individual involved in in retail, farming and distribution saying the opposite.

There is nothing but shameless bullshit, lies and deceit from top to bottom regarding the shower of shit now running this country, and as you rightly ask, how long will people fall for it?

I don't think many people realise or care about it, which is probably why they lie like they do. They know they'll get away with it with a pro government press behind them printing the headlines. No doubt the Express will have a 'Fury as Leftie enrages Minister' type headline tomorrow.

There is not enough critical thinking these days, and a quick fix headline is all it takes for an opinion to be formed that will be hard to shift.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Didn't the Lib-Dems offer that at the last election but hardly any bugger voted for them (including ardent remainers).

If either of the major parties push for it, it could happen but it's going to be years most likely. Would probably mean losing the deal we had before too (though I'm fine with that).
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Just for the record (again) most people in the 2019 GE voted for parties either saying we should abandon Brexit or at least offer a second referendum.
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Society, infrastructure, supply lines are more resilient nowadays. I dont believe we will have a winter of discontent, this year anyway.

The poor will be hit hard though, thats the mindset of this particular govn and they have the excuses to rip the support from under their feet, supported by a mostly right leaning news media.
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The poorest households on prepayment meters face another £3 a week on gas and elec.
 
NPBlue said:
Oh, the lies are long and hard and it depresses me when you think about all the bullshit our privately educated leaders spout time after time.

They are lying through their fucking teeth on national TV with every interview, with every PMQ's, with every answer in the House of Commons to any question about anything . The Ministerial code of conduct means nothing anymore, their grateful friends have transferred millions into their offshore bank accounts after being awarded multi million pound contracts for delivering nothing of any substance during the pandemic and they have refused to disclose any information regarding those contracts.

They have suppressed the report into Russian interference in British elections and the referendum in particular. They have suppressed publication of their impact assessment called 'Yellow Hammer' on the affects leaving the EU would have on the UK which accurately predicted everything that has happened since we left the EU, and tonight on Question Time, a tory minister said there won't be shortages of anything at Christmas, despite every single individual involved in in retail, farming and distribution saying the opposite.

There is nothing but shameless bullshit, lies and deceit from top to bottom regarding the shower of shit now running this country, and as you rightly ask, how long will people fall for it?

I don't think many people realise or care about it, which is probably why they lie like they do. They know they'll get away with it with a pro government press behind them printing the headlines. No doubt the Express will have a 'Fury as Leftie enrages Minister' type headline tomorrow.

There is not enough critical thinking these days, and a quick fix headline is all it takes for an opinion to be formed that will be hard to shift.
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Because ..... Corbyn
 
The cast iron grip of fptp ensures the past becomes the future for ever.
An electorate predominantly apathetic, thanks to them being ignored since the end of WW2 , safe seats, a far right msm, the overwhelming favouritism that london basks in, the still-common acceptance that women are expected to do what "he" says. "They're all as bad as each other" is the fall-back of millions because, it is fuckin' true. Over the years, the integrity of politicians has been exposed as nothing more than a disguise, which they deny, despite the sheer volume of sleaze and lies, safe in the impregnable palace of westminster. Nothing matters more to the establishment than to retain the status quo. They have been unquestionably successful and intend to be so for the foreseeable future. Grim, unless you are one of the supporters of the "system", work for the msm or plain numb
 
bellbuzzer said:
The cast iron grip of fptp ensures the past becomes the future for ever.
An electorate predominantly apathetic, thanks to them being ignored since the end of WW2 , safe seats, a far right msm, the overwhelming favouritism that london basks in, the still-common acceptance that women are expected to do what "he" says. "They're all as bad as each other" is the fall-back of millions because, it is fuckin' true. Over the years, the integrity of politicians has been exposed as nothing more than a disguise, which they deny, despite the sheer volume of sleaze and lies, safe in the impregnable palace of westminster. Nothing matters more to the establishment than to retain the status quo. They have been unquestionably successful and intend to be so for the foreseeable future. Grim, unless you are one of the supporters of the "system", work for the msm or plain numb
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As long as there's legions of geriatric women like the one interviewed on the street in Dudley after Starmer's speech whose contribution when asked about it was something like "Ooh I we love Boris don't we, he's doing his best" while her equally senile friend nodded in agreement, and there's an equally large contingent who have convinced themselves that all politicians are the same so it's not worth voting at all, then we're fucked as a country.
 
lancs blue said:
I don't recall 78/79 winter as being that bad tbh, there were no rotating power cuts for starters as in 72 and 74 - they really bring it home to people that there are severe problems. Even allowing for all the various issues in the 70s, including periods where inflation was over 20%, I was never as financially impacted then as I was by the 2008 credit crunch.
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Correct. The pictures of rubbish and the stories about unburied bodies were localised stuff. If they hadn't watched the news or read the papers, most people wouldn't have known anything was wrong.

Callaghan was right - it really didn't look that bad from abroad. Whereas now we are derided for our self-created mess.

As for "Crisis what crisis?", every government statement at the moment comes in that category.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Because ..... Corbyn
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Possibly. Or should that be probably? He wasn't at the races really and the red wall voters rejected him. I don't think anybody knew what he stood for, including me.

I voted Labour at the last election but it wasn't a whole hearted endorsement for him at the time. It was a sort of tactical vote, really, to rid us of our tory politician, Graham Brady.

I voted Lid Dem some time back and if I, and a few hundred others, had voted Labour instead, he would have lost his seat.

It's difficult trying to make your vote count in our first past the post system when all you want to do is get rid of the tories.

I don't know about Kier Starmer now, either. He misses the point for me, and his rejection of proportional representation was a real and genuine let down.

I'll lambast the tories for ever and a day but there isn't any credible opposition and it's a real shame we don't have that at the moment.

I feel like a fish out of water at the moment.
 
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