Ref Watch

Psychedelic Casual said:
I would say our first foul almost never ends up with a yellow card.

We have to get factual when talking about this. Otherwise when we do have gripes about things, it just gets lost in the sea of our persecution complex.
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I do have a season ticket. I don’t just make shit up to post for dopamine hits. Granted I haven’t got any figures, but it’s just my observation going to matches. What are you basing your statement on? If you have facts to back up your statement let’s see them.
 
zandvoort blue said:
Cast your mind back to 2016 and Manchester City start the season away at Stoke City, In line with a new PIGMOL directive Mike Dean clamps down on contact in the box and awards Stoke a penalty out of nothing. Apparently Shawcross couldn`t break free from Sterling in the box. But the pundits all said it`s what is now expected under the new rules in the box. The following weekend it`s ops normal as the physical element returned in the box.

Now back to the current season. We open the season with a game at Spuds where under a new PIGMOL directive Alty Fan Taylor endeavours to keep the game flowing while allowing Tanganga to perform acts of unpunished violence, This successful aggressive approach earns Tanganga the MOTM and the pundits plaudits However, once again normal refereeing services resume in the following weeks as Tanganga sees red when being sent off at Palace whilst taking the same approach to wild tackling.

So we all play under the same rules PIGMOL, yeh right?
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The laws must have been changed after that game because Tanganga was sent off for continuing the same level of thuggery in the following match.
 
crazyg said:
They do have some standards, but seem to be either unable or incapable of raising them when called upon in stressful situations. That comes, of course, with the caveat that they are all observing the LotG as written with no bias or favour.
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I guess my whole argument here is that PL officiating can't be a career that appeals to top, top talent. PL center officials have to be as perceptive as anyone out there and have to be able to think on their feet in real time AND have to do all of this while micro-managing a bunch of aggrieved playing staff. It's a task that the current crop of PL refs do an adequate job at, but calls and policies about calls continue to be baffling to all clubs in the league (offsides under VAR, the handball in the box rule, staying on your feet v. going down in the box).

But this shouldn't shock us - compared to what officials have to do in other sports, its an incredible task. Further, officials in other sports are treated as more of a commodity, and are rarely individually shamed for bad calls by large swathes of the country they live in. Just seems bizarre to me that they would be marginally compensated when their compensation is viewed against the veritable waterfall of money moving through the league and the sport at present.

I don't want to pay these wankers more money, but I want better officials long term.
 
There was a moment I think straight after Milner should have been sent off where Jesus shoulder barged one of their players and we was away and the **** blew up for a foul
 
berryblue said:
The arrogance shown by Dean was there for all to see. Ignoring Pep's protestations as he chewed away on his gum. "I can't talk whilst I'm chewing" Totally unprofessional.
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What is the 4th twats role, just holding up injury time and substitution boards or to be another set of eyes to help the other three officials? He warranted a dig from Pep the way he just stood there the arrogant fcker, he should have been shouting at tierney to check the monitor not showing Pep who was boss.
 
Kippax77 said:
First game we lost in our title winning season under Mancini. Chelsea away.
Belotelli puts us 1 up after about a minute, soon after David Silva is brought down in the box, nailed on pen.
Not to Clattenburg it wasn't. Pundits couldn't believe it.
Then for good measure he sends Clichy off and we get beat 2-1.

A total prick of a man
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The birdshit eater on Aguero in the box with nobody around them to obstruct anyone’s view?
 
Chris B said:
I think people would respect refs more if they came out and said we’ve reviewed those decisions and think there was an error… “it happened because the ref was unsighted and var couldn’t intervene because it was outside to box”, or whatever. Currently they give the impression of trying to justify whatever they’ve done even if it’s clear there was an error. This is especially true of former refs turned pundits.
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I think this is the biggest part of the problem with the state of refereeing in this country and why referees are generally distrusted.
In the Liverpool game at Anfield (again!) a couple of seasons ago we were again on the end of numerous 'controversial' calls that were so bad even pundits were baffled by them, there were even rumours that VAR wasn't working in the first half of the game.
Afterwards PGMOL released a statement saying that all the major decisions in the game were correct and that VAR was working as designed.
This statement was so at odds to what actually happened it was laughable and destroyed a lot of trust people had in the even handed implementation of the laws of the game and that VAR would change the game for the better.
They should have either not released a statement or released a statement along the lines of "some decisions could be interpreted differently and will be reviewed as learning opportunities to allow our referees to reach the highest of standards" or some such. It would have helped if they had said why some of the controversial decisions couldn't be VAR reviewed rather than saying it was working as intended.
To come out and say that one of the most one sided refereeing performances in the last decade had no issues that needed reviewing was just idiotic.
It continues to this day, PGMOL either say nothing or wheel out an ex ref who backs up the vast majority of wrong decisions.
 
Tyler the old relic said in his commentary after about 80 minutes how this was a real game or similar. He was loving the end to end stuff as it kept viewers interested. You would not have had that if they were down to ten men.
Sky, pigmob and the PL are simply creating entertainment. Saturday Night at the London Palladium WWE, call it what you want but they are all in it together.

That said if Cancello had done the first Milner foul, a penalty and a red would have been awarded so we wouldn't even be discussing the third yellow.
 
Chris B said:
I agree on the last man trip, but often these things come down to if there’s a defender who might have been able to cover. There was one vaguely nearby so maybe that’s what they thought.

For the second yellow that wasn’t given, I should’ve been clearer in my original post: they can only intervene for a “direct red card”. Not for second yellows. Nonsensical, but that’s the var rules in the premier league.

Of course, none of this explains why the ref didn’t see it first time round.
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The official explanation on the Milner trip was that VAR deemed that no foul had been committed, so no intervention was necessary.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Unreal isn’t it? Milner isn’t booked for fouling Bernardo but Bernardo is booked for being fouled by Milner
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That's the LotG publication that some refs secrete in a back pocket and pull out when the occasion arises, such as a display by City at Anfield where sheer quality would run ten men into the ground. Normal laws are suspended and it's open season on our players.
 
Academica said:
Watched ref watch on sky and after several replays showing that Milner had tripped Foden, Gallagher said that Foden had tripped himself up. Now that is totally against what was shown to have happened and he was still in denial.
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Which is utterly bizarre and shows that even when they retire they stick together. When people say that referees are bent others say 'well why hasn't a retired one come out and said something '. Well there is all the proof you need why they haven't. Even with evidential proof that the referee made the wrong decision he still defends him and tells a bare faced lie in front of camera.
They give the word corrupt a bad name.
 
Blue Mist said:
Which is utterly bizarre and shows that even when they retire they stick together. When people say that referees are bent others say 'well why hasn't a retired one come out and said something '. Well there is all the proof you need why they haven't. Even with evidential proof that the referee made the wrong decision he still defends him and tells a bare faced lie in front of camera.
They give the word corrupt a bad name.
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www.theguardian.com

Why are Premier League referees silenced – even into their retirement?

Referees in Australia, Germany and the US are allowed to explain their decisions to fans so why are Premier League officials banned from talking to the media?
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From 2016 but would suggest rules remain the same around spilling the beans.
 
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