City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

M18CTID said:
Pretty sure Everton were’t one of the Hateful Eight/Noncey Nine.

Regarding FFP though, they were one of the clubs who voted in favour of the Premier League bringing it in back when Kenwright was chairman. Many clubs voted for it just to use it as an excuse not to spend big without caring that potential future owners of those clubs might want to invest plenty of money. That’s the situation Everton find themselves in now, and Newcastle of course as Ashley also voted for FFP.
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Here is a list of the hateful eight (which does not include Everton) included in a typically forthright article by Martin Samuel. When are we putting up a statue to this marvellous man?
www.dailymail.co.uk

MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful eight' step up war against Manchester City

MARTIN SAMUEL - CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. There is still a chance to pressurise.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
KS55 said:
Here is a list of the hateful eight (which does not include Everton) included in a typically forthright article by Martin Samuel. When are we putting up a statue to this marvellous man?
www.dailymail.co.uk

MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful eight' step up war against Manchester City

MARTIN SAMUEL - CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. There is still a chance to pressurise.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Not read that article before. The hypocrisy coming out of Liverpool and Utd is laughable. One minute they’re signing up to the hateful 8 whilst in discussion about Project Big Picture and then going on to be leaders of the ESL idea. Cunts!
 
Ancient Citizen said:
There would be no FFP ban if Prince William decided to sponsor Villa, with his own money. The arseholes screaming about countries owning teams would then have to add Britain to the list.
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And not forgetting the Queen's racehorses, which would have to be referred to as 'state owned' :)
 
StillBluessinceHydeRoad said:
The cartel still exists and the most successful side in the country and probably the best team in the world is City. City have shown that "taking the pinch" was the right thing to do in 2014 and the sanctions imposed were a bump on our road and no more. Newcastle are in a different position facing far more severe (and far more obviously unlawful) and they may be a position where, rather than take a sledgehammer in the face, they have to go to court, presumably straight to the ECJ or the English courts. But don't ignore the obvious - the cartel is getting more and more desperate.
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Just as our owner knew that his ownership of City was not wanted and he would face massive opposition I'm sure NU owners will have learned from our experience and feel they can combat whatever is thrown at them.
I agree entirely that they are getting more and more desperate.
 
KS55 said:
Here is a list of the hateful eight (which does not include Everton) included in a typically forthright article by Martin Samuel. When are we putting up a statue to this marvellous man?
www.dailymail.co.uk

MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful eight' step up war against Manchester City

MARTIN SAMUEL - CHIEF SPORTS WRITER: This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. There is still a chance to pressurise.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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'There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley'

Lets not forget Newcastle tried to cosy up to the Americans in this....

And Burnley?! That still beggars belief....
 
KS55 said:
I expect quite a few twats like S.Jordan will get a surprise when they discover we don't have any sponsorship from related partners. They haven't even bothered to look at our accounts.
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Nah they'll know now but like the 10-0 CAS win will still carry-on with the line as sadly the Club just don't pull them up.

For any blues abroad, is it just in the UK the media shit on us....are we shown in a more positive light around Europe/USA/Asia etc?
 
Claytop said:
'There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley'

Lets not forget Newcastle tried to cosy up to the Americans in this....

And Burnley?! That still beggars belief....
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Burnley were relatively high in the league at the time with an outside chance of European qualification.

The letter was asking for the process to be completed that season, and not allowed to drag on through appeals into the next season, was in almost all the clubs' interests as a ban that season would make gaining a European place easier, whether for those wanting CL or those wanting EL.

For the last two clubs in that list particularly, it was their best chance for several seasons of making the Europa League, and if a ban had stuck, it would have freed a place to contest. There was every chance (as it proved in the end) that they'd be nowhere near EL qualification the year after.

I've always thought that for some of those listed, it was pro-themselves and not anti-City. From memory, only Liverpool were secure in achieving CL qualification at the time of writing.
 
Claytop said:
'There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley'

Lets not forget Newcastle tried to cosy up to the Americans in this....

And Burnley?! That still beggars belief....
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I got into a bit of a spat with a Burnley fan regarding related party transactions. It took a bit of to and froing before the six fingered one finally revealed his true colours. His problem wasn't really about related party sponsorship it was "dirty oil money". Who'd have ever guessed a Burnley fan could think like that!
 
Citizen Green said:


Excellent thread from @projectriver on Etihad/Related Party misconception that the media keep parroting.
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I went back to look at that thread and there was a bizarre exchange between Stefan and, of all people, Nick "rent a human rights quote" McGeehan. Bizarre in the sense McGeehan (who has no interest in football except to ride on the back of City) was debating the veracity of the CAS findings and highlighting the Nick Harris smoking gun email released after the CAS verdict. Needless to say @projectriver dealt with him, politely, in the way Stefan does...
 
Bozzie said:
I got into a bit of a spat with a Burnley fan regarding related party transactions. It took a bit of to and froing before the six fingered one finally revealed his true colours. His problem wasn't really about related party sponsorship it was "dirty oil money". Who'd have ever guessed a Burnley fan could think like that!
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Just sayin'.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
I went back to look at that thread and there was a bizarre exchange between Stefan and, of all people, Nick "rent a human rights quote" McGeehan. Bizarre in the sense McGeehan (who has no interest in football except to ride on the back of City) was debating the veracity of the CAS findings and highlighting the Nick Harris smoking gun email released after the CAS verdict. Needless to say @projectriver dealt with him, politely, in the way Stefan does...
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I saw that bit - hilarious in the almost complete wrongness that he was arguing. His only point was "but they've got emails", and he ignored the response of "context". He also claimed that Der Spiegel had released some more after the case which were even worse - because, of course they would wait until after a final closure before releasing something, wouldn't they?
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Burnley were relatively high in the league at the time with an outside chance of European qualification.

The letter was asking for the process to be completed that season, and not allowed to drag on through appeals into the next season, was in almost all the clubs' interests as a ban that season would make gaining a European place easier, whether for those wanting CL or those wanting EL.

For the last two clubs in that list particularly, it was their best chance for several seasons of making the Europa League, and if a ban had stuck, it would have freed a place to contest. There was every chance (as it proved in the end) that they'd be nowhere near EL qualification the year after.

I've always thought that for some of those listed, it was pro-themselves and not anti-City. From memory, only Liverpool were secure in achieving CL qualification at the time of writing.
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Important to remember this IMO. All clubs are in it for themselves and will always vote or campaign out of individual (perceived) business self-interest. It applies to us as well and we regularly vote or work with the cartel clubs. Loads of examples in recent times:

International TV revenues
5 Subs
Scapping £30 away cap
Project Restart

On a European level we were at one with the red tops with the Super League (to an extent) and definitely (directly before the SL announcement) arguing with UEFA for a greater collective say and share in CL revenues.

Having said that there is no doubt Arsenal, United and Liverpool will work against us at every opportunity. Add in wannabe Spurs as well. Chelsea are floaters and remember they voted for Soriano recently when the others didn't.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I saw that bit - hilarious in the almost complete wrongness that he was arguing. His only point was "but they've got emails", and he ignored the response of "context". He also claimed that Der Spiegel had released some more after the case which were even worse - because, of course they would wait until after a final closure before releasing something, wouldn't they?
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I was amazed McGeehan was getting involved. But just goes to show how immersed he is in the whatsapp group. Makes sense for him though -he is the go to for just about every article or you tube about Human Rights/Sportswashing and someone has to pay the bills.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
I was amazed McGeehan was getting involved. But just goes to show how immersed he is in the whatsapp group. Makes sense for him though -he is the go to for just about every article or you tube about Human Rights/Sportswashing and someone has to pay the bills.
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That's a good point, hadn't thought that it was outside his usual rant-o-sphere.
 
Pablo ZZZ Peroni said:
I went back to look at that thread and there was a bizarre exchange between Stefan and, of all people, Nick "rent a human rights quote" McGeehan. Bizarre in the sense McGeehan (who has no interest in football except to ride on the back of City) was debating the veracity of the CAS findings and highlighting the Nick Harris smoking gun email released after the CAS verdict. Needless to say @projectriver dealt with him, politely, in the way Stefan does...
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Surprised that none of McGeehan’s mates joined in. It must have been the day that WhatsApp/FB went down.
 
Claytop said:
'There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley'

Lets not forget Newcastle tried to cosy up to the Americans in this....

And Burnley?! That still beggars belief....
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Burnley are owned by Americans loan sharks so makes sense that they side with the other desperados
 
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