10 | Jack Grealish - 2021/22 Performances

[Trickyblues]

Grealish is not making room for cancelo, all grealish does is get the ball, square up against the defender then pass back to cancelo at the edge of the box for cancelo to either cross or shoot

He definitely did for the first goal

 

[BLUEMOONRACING]

Give him a bit of time and maybe stop playing him every game, make him work for his place in the team.

 

[Keeper!]

I can’t figure him out Keeps, I don’t know whether he’s carrying that injury or it’s form

A combination in my humble but the biggest worry is physically, he looks old, even in the training videos he look laboured and struggling for any fluid movement.

I just hope he is carrying injuries but I fear he is broken and we have seen the best of him, I hope I am very wrong.

 

[skyblue92]

Give the guy a chance he’s only been here a few months and people already writing him off saying he’s shit and looks old . Why do we always have to have a scapegoat and knock people down , from gundo to mahrez to cancelo to Sterling there’s a pattern .. they all turned out to prove there worth I have no doubt that pep knows what he’s doing with Jack and none of us have seen his best

 

[Woody13]

I posted a couple of weeks ago in this thread about not being convinced yet on Grealish and that thought still remains. What I have seen recently is that in my opinion he could be much more effective in a more central role. I think he’s a bit predictable for full backs, they know he wants to cut inside and he doesn’t really have the blistering pace to go on the outside, so if the full back physically matches him he’s not got too many options hence we see a number of simple passes inside or back to Cancelo.

With more passing options open to him centrally, the chance to play little intricate passes, the ability to pass a defender either side if he can square them up, aswell as his shooting ability, I just think puts more doubt in the defenders minds as to what he’s going to do. He does have quality, just not sure we’re making the most of it just yet, though I’m sure Pep has a grand plan.

 

[Phil1]

Imagine that Sterling or Mahrez were putting in the exact same performance as Grealish and with the same output and game time. What would your reaction be? Would you praise them for playing a through ball to a fullback and then fail to score or assist? Or would you demand that they be dropped so that other players can get a chance?

I suppose it depends on if you're somebody who sees the bigger picture with Grealish or wherever you're an over reactionary dimwit who is demanding a player be dropped because he's not single handedly won us every game he's played and cost a lot.

 

[citizen_maine]

Going to start calling Jack 'if only'..
If only his assists had been scored..
If only he had a left footed defender behind him
If only he was played in the right position.
If only KDB was fit/playing better
If only he was given more time.
If only he wasn't double up on (just like every other City player)
Rinse and repeat.

If only he'd had more than 3 months to settle in

 

[mcfcbill91]

I think he's had a reasonable start to life as a City player.

The easiest point is the adaptation to our style of play and the different responsibilities he now has.

Quite often he's picking the ball up with the other team's defence set in position, approaching the defender from a standing start about 30-40 yards from goal. Compare this to Villa, where he would often pick the ball up deep or in transition. Very hard to beat a player from a standing start unless you're ridiculously quick.

We also place a high value on possession and a majority of our attacks are methodical and precisely worked. Again, at Villa he would've been in more counter attacking situations or less structured passages of play. Clearly he isn't trying high risk play and using safer options at the moment, like a number of attacking signings did when they first arrived.

He's also now playing with a unique full back in Cancelo (also right footed) who can deliver a ridiculous range of passing, but isn't going to make overlapping runs taking players away. At best he'll underlap the play.

However, a few moments stood out in the Brugge game - the pass through for Cancelo to hit the post, the reverse played to Bernardo Silva later in the half and then when he created two chances coming off the wing in a freer role. It's how we can get him into more situations to do this and getting the confidence & standing to do it.

It's going to take him time to transition into our system and find his right position. We also need other players to pick up form so he can be played elsewhere and different attacking patterns etc can be used.

 

[cbl]

Imagine that Sterling or Mahrez were putting in the exact same performance as Grealish and with the same output and game time. What would your reaction be? Would you praise them for playing a through ball to a fullback and then fail to score or assist? Or would you demand that they be dropped so that other players can get a chance?

bit on an unfair comparison. he’s been here for three bloody months. i doubt we’ll see the best of him this season. people need to remember he’s signed a 6 year contract and it’s not all about the ‘here and now’ but planning the squad for the future. i’m glad he’s with us and not anyone else.

allow him time to get used to this new style of play and build relationships with his new teammates. the kid isn’t used to playing at this level or within this system; he’s also never played this much before so it will take some time to adjust.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

For me Foden, Bernardo,Cancelo,Grealish and Jesus are City`s best players this season, I would not have bought Grealish simply not enough improvement on the team to warrant the money, but there is an improvement. At the moment the media especially ESPN are trying to make out that Grealish is a flop just like Sancho and no doubt some will say Sancho has time on his side, but he has no chance of improving at utd even if he had the ability, to City fans i would say be careful of whom is trying to influence you.

 

[Callum Ramsey]

The thing is I actually feel a bit for him, coming into a new team with teammates much superior to what you previously had, in a new system requiring more discipline in positional play than you've ever been used to and under a manager more meticulous and demanding than any you would ever play for, it can be a shock to the system. When all those are taken into consideration, you could say he's done fine and that in itself would be understandable. He is clearly more of a long-term signing than an instant impact/ game-changer one irrespective of the price tag.

The problem is through no fault of his own, he was massively overhyped prior to his signing to be something he clearly wasn't. Right from the start of the euros until his signing there have been very few players who've had the kind of hype and fervour that he had. So much to a point where he was already hailed as being a beter player than the likes of mahrez and sterling, two players who had been pivotal parts in tittle winning teams, at leicester for mahrez and two consecutive seasons for sterling. We are talking about genuine match-winners/game changers at the highest level here yet somehow when compared to grealish seemed like mid-table players. That was how ridiculous it got at times when the truth is he has a long way to go to accomplish anything close to what those two have in their careers.

Add an inflated price-tag into this mix of overhype and you have a situation where expectations fairly or unfairly gets raised to a level where he couldn't possibly live up to coming into a new side. He was never going to be a game-changer or someone to take the team to the next level like his price or the hype would dictate. He also wasn't coming into a team that was just merely good but rather one that had won 3 or the 4 previous titles so really there was much else he could add other than squad depth unless he was truly extraordinary player which he isn't. If we are being totally honest when everyone is fit and in their best form I would argue he is 5 or 6 in ranking in both the attacking and midfield roles. That is no slight on him but rather the ridiculous standards and levels that's been set the past 4 or so seasons and the quality of players.

So yes he should be given time to adjust irrespective of his price/hype coming into the club, he will most likely end up being a success in the long-term once the likes of de-bruyne/gundogan have moved on and he's had more understanding of the system and its requirements. But he should also be judged on what he's offering at the moment and currently his performances and impact certainly doesn't justify him being one of the first names on the team for me.

 

[Lauz9888]

I think it's a problem of expectations vs reality.

Don't expect him to be a prolific goalscorer. He's never been that.

Don't expect him to be a pacy winger who exploits the width of the pitch. He's never been that.

Don't expect him to improve us as much as he improved Villa. We don't have that much room for improvement.

He's a playmaker. He creates chances, finds space, controls possession and tempo.

He's delivering similar to how he did at Villa, and how he played at Villa is what made us buy him. He'll improve over time as he and the club get more comfortable with each other.

He didn't come free with a Happy Meal and now we have to figure out what he is. Pep and the club did a whole lot of research, scouted him thoroughly and knew what they were buying, and they got him as advertised. Nothing he's done since joining will have been a negative surprise for the club.

Pep has a plan for him. Just going to take a little time.

 

[Agueroooo9320]

The thing is I actually feel a bit for him, coming into a new team with teammates much superior to what you previously had, in a new system requiring more discipline in positional play than you've ever been used to and under a manager more meticulous and demanding than any you would ever play for, it can be a shock to the system. When all those are taken into consideration, you could say he's done fine and that in itself would be understandable. He is clearly more of a long-term signing than an instant impact/ game-changer one irrespective of the price tag.

The problem is through no fault of his own, he was massively overhyped prior to his signing to be something he clearly wasn't. Right from the start of the euros until his signing there have been very few players who've had the kind of hype and fervour that he had. So much to a point where he was already hailed as being a beter player than the likes of mahrez and sterling, two players who had been pivotal parts in tittle winning teams, at leicester for mahrez and two consecutive seasons for sterling. We are talking abthis out genuine match-winners/game changers at the highest level here yet somehow when compared to grealish seemed like mid-table players. That was how ridiculous it got at times when the truth is he has a long way to go to accomplish anything close to what those two have in their careers.

Add an inflated price-tag into this mix of overhype and you have a situation where expectations fairly or unfairly gets raised to a level where he couldn't possibly live up to coming into a new side. He was never going to be a game-changer or someone to take the team to the next level like his price or the hype would dictate. He also wasn't coming into a team that was just merely good but rather one that had won 3 or the 4 previous titles so really there was much else he could add other than squad depth unless he was truly extraordinary player which he isn't. If we are being totally honest when everyone is fit and in their best form I would argue he is 5 or 6 in ranking in both the attacking and midfield roles. That is no slight on him but rather the ridiculous standards and levels that's been set the past 4 or so seasons and the quality of players.

So yes he should be given time to adjust irrespective of his price/hype coming into the club, he will most likely end up being a success in the long-term once the likes of de-bruyne/gundogan have moved on and he's had more understanding of the system and its requirements. But he should also be judged on what he's offering at the moment and currently his performances and impact certainly doesn't justify him being one of the first names on the team for me.

this is a good take but if pep decides to play foden at 9 then i am not sure if we have a better option at left wing instead of jack so he gets in by default

 

[Indaparkside]

He’ll be gone in a couple of years for 30 million tops imo, his price tag was insane

 

[Shaffer92]

He’ll be gone in a couple of years for 30 million tops imo, his price tag was insane

stop it

 

[urban genie]

Hel has played mainy as an atacking inside left midfielder, who would drift out wide to find pace and cut back in, expecting him to be a sterling or sane as in an out and out winger is more likely in his game but will take time for him to adjust to.

Judging him on 15 games, while the pundits are eager to criticise also is far too knee jerky.

I would like to see him on the left of our midfield 3 in a game parnering berny, ilkay or kev with foden back out wide, see how he fares in that role

 

[Tugay One Cup]

He’ll be gone in a couple of years for 30 million tops imo, his price tag was insane

Fancy a wager?

 

[Mr HJ]

Fact - too many people are looking too deeply into Jack's performances so far. He's a quality player, has settled into the off the field things, which is very important and most importantly will be a vital player for us over the next few years. Quality end of.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Fact - too many people are looking too deeply into Jack's performances so far. He's a quality player, has settled into the off the field things, which is very important and most importantly will be a vital player for us over the next few years. Quality end of.

Spot on,some very short sighted and blinkered thinking.

He is here for the now,and very much the future.

 

[Radiohead1981]

Spot on,some very short sighted and blinkered thinking.

He is here for the now,and very much the future.

He was dropped today.