The Conservative Party

bluethrunthru said:
Exactly - if your MP gets £400k for his/her side hustle and £80k for being your MP which job is really the side hustle? Plenty of their constituents have second jobs though - the reason for that being is to pay the rent or clothe the kids or just to buy food and thats what these MP's don't get as they are so far removed from reality
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I think there is levels to this and a public service issue. Also is your role as MP been monetised. If you are a Dr or some other profession that needs to work to maintain your qualifications that should be allowed. No one would have a issue with Cox doing Pro Bona legal work, especially if it was with vulnerable people in his community. It could be said working among the community enhances your ability to be an MP.

The issue here is Cox is taking an astronomical sum of money, for a case against the government while been away from his constituents for two months at a time. Added to the fact that he has not spoken in Parliament since February 2020. In the case of Patterson he has directly monetised his role as MP, without it nobody was given him a 100k a year. The argument you could make is Cox's previous Role as AG has allowed him to charge these fees, but ultimately you wonder why he bothers. He seems to have little interest in been an MP or serving the public. Be best to just go back to his legal career.
 
Rascal said:
Surprise surprise, that horrible murdering scumbag Ian liar Duncan Smith is a crooked corrupt ****, taking money from a hand sanitiser company



The Police should be investigating these cunts, arresting them and sent to jail for their actions.

There is a political maxim that says every Labour government ends with the country in financial trouble and every Conservative government ends mired in sleaze and corruption. It appears given the polls that people in the country are happy for the Tories to take the piss out of them as long as the countries finances are in order. At the moment though the Tories face the perfect storm, not only are they sleazy and corrupt but the countries finances are fucked as well according to the ideals that the Tories have followed since Thatcher.

16 Tory party treasurers who gave more than £3 million to the Tory party got peerages, yes 16 , the bent cunts. Cox the bent **** spent lockdown earning millions advising the Government of the British Virgin Islands, a tax haven.

Johnson is to blame for all this disgusting corruption by his MP's as he cannot sanction them because he is a corrupt **** himself. The self entitlement of the fuckers is astonishing, they do not give a fuck as long as their own pockets and their mates pockets are bulging with money.
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No surprises here then, like I've always said, anyone who works the state over should be put up against the wall.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Drastic overhaul needed but this Nasty Party are not the ones who will do it. To many noses (sorry snouts) in the trough.

We need to pay MPs a higher wage - £150k + a set allowance for office, PM £250k. For this non of them should be allowed a second job whatsoever. No lobbying and no money for contracts to any ‘friends’ or family. The job of MP should be enough, any MP not spending at least 40 hrs a week doing their job as an MP is not doing it properly.
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I actually agree that MPs could be paid more for what they do, but also I think it would be naive to think that this kind of self serving behaviour would be eradicated by raising their salaries. Let's not forget, by and large this a problem quite specific to the Tory party. The vast, vast majority of MPs from other parties don't seem to be having this problem. And the amount of money we're talking about raising their salaries by is dwarfed by the amount they're currently making by helping out private business interests on the not-so-sly. These people are motivated by a level of greed beyond belief and if they can't have a second job they will find some other means of abusing their position. These people are morally bankrupt and chucking them an extra 70k per year isn't going to change that.
 
don't forget as well as £82k they also get a 2nd home thats subsidised - subsidised travel - subsidised bars and restaurants - can claim for food and other stuff on expenses and a great pension scheme so why do they need more?
They understood what they were getting into and the remuneration expected - anyone else taken a job at£30k a year then within a couple of years lobbying for a wage increase to £60k pa? How did that work out for you?
 
Rascal said:
Surprise surprise, that horrible murdering scumbag Ian liar Duncan Smith is a crooked corrupt ****, taking money from a hand sanitiser company



The Police should be investigating these cunts, arresting them and sent to jail for their actions.

There is a political maxim that says every Labour government ends with the country in financial trouble and every Conservative government ends mired in sleaze and corruption. It appears given the polls that people in the country are happy for the Tories to take the piss out of them as long as the countries finances are in order. At the moment though the Tories face the perfect storm, not only are they sleazy and corrupt but the countries finances are fucked as well according to the ideals that the Tories have followed since Thatcher.

16 Tory party treasurers who gave more than £3 million to the Tory party got peerages, yes 16 , the bent cunts. Cox the bent **** spent lockdown earning millions advising the Government of the British Virgin Islands, a tax haven.

Johnson is to blame for all this disgusting corruption by his MP's as he cannot sanction them because he is a corrupt **** himself. The self entitlement of the fuckers is astonishing, they do not give a fuck as long as their own pockets and their mates pockets are bulging with money.
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How short is thy memory - the 2009 cash for influence scandal ring any bells?

There are around 15 former union leaders also sitting in the lords having donated millions to the Labour Party. Along with business men/women who have also donated millions to the Labour Party. All appointed in last 20 years.

In summary I don’t think anyone can claim the moral high ground. Certainly not the tories or labour
 
metalblue said:
How short is thy memory - the 2009 cash for influence scandal ring any bells?

There are around 15 former union leaders also sitting in the lords having donated millions to the Labour Party. Along with business men/women who have also donated millions to the Labour Party. All appointed in last 20 years.

In summary I don’t think anyone can claim the moral high ground. Certainly not the tories or labour
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Leaving aside the whiff of whataboutery, the idea that no one can claim the moral high ground and therefore condemn the corruption in the Tory party is a bizarre take.
 
BobKowalski said:
Leaving aside the whiff of whataboutery, the idea that no one can claim the moral high ground and therefore condemn the corruption in the Tory party is a bizarre take.
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Condemn it all you like just don’t pretend this is a Tory only problem and that a simple change of government will magically improve things.
 
metalblue said:
There are around 15 former union leaders also sitting in the lords having donated millions to the Labour Party.
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Not one to be taking the moral high ground but the money is not theirs personally (the clue is in the name?)

BTW I don't agree with the lords and think it should be scrapped and replaced with a properly elected officials instead of grubby party donors.
 
Mike D said:
Not one to be taking the moral high ground but the money is not theirs personally (the clue is in the name?)

BTW I don't agree with the lords and think it should be scrapped and replaced with a properly elected officials instead of grubby party donors.
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Agreed that it’s technically not their money but in practice beyond the affiliated contributions that a member knowingly makes this is about the discretionary contributions. We’ve seen over the past few months union leaders reduce or withdraw the discretionary funding to the Labour Party because they don’t agree with policy (no issue with that accountability btw) - now perhaps I’m doing them a disservice and they actually balloted members before taking this action; which would at least give it a sense of being a democratic decision of the union rather than leadership.

To your last point about an elected second house, I couldn’t agree more with you, it’s largely full of lackeys.
 
This gets curiouser and curiouser - Cox releases a statement saying he broke no rules but has been filmed on a zoom conf doing work on the BVA case in his commons office which breaks the rules. He also says he cleared the trip with the chief whip before he left the UK - so Johnson must have known. Back bench anger against Johnson is palpable - Cox doesn't care if he drops him in it
 
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