Coronavirus (2021) thread

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BlueHammer85 said:
A new variant of the coronavirus with a "constellation" of mutations has been identified in Botswana.

Designated as B.1.1.529, scientists are still unclear whether existing antibodies would react well to the variant - which has 32 spike protein mutations.

Tom Peacock, a virologist at Imperial College London, branded the mutations "really awful".
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The language used by a number of scientists on social media - even those you'd usually associate with a more positive outlook - suggest that this is the first major concern since Delta.

Thread here, and note the number of *could* and *might* in the thread, a few weeks will tell us more, but the tone here and elsewhere doesn't provide a vibe of any confidence.

 
The mood is clear. I guess I'm going to have to put my doubts aside and get the booster.
 
A new variant we will probably stop from coming here after it has colonised half the UK and then argue it was impossible to stop it or we would have done so.

We should at least be taking immediate action to quarantine and test all arriving from the known infected areas until we know enough to be sure of the risk. Hopefully we are. We were lucky with Delta.
 
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Summerbuzz said:
The mood is clear. I guess I'm going to have to put my doubts aside and get the booster.
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Get it done, mate. I've been down with the Delta all week, with my good lady testing negative every day since. She's had the ol' 3 for a Pfizer, the last jab being a couple of months ago. Impossible to argue against it, in my book.
 
Healdplace said:
A new variant we will probably stop from coming here after it has colonised half the UK and then argue it was impossible to stop it or we would have done so.

We should at least be taking immediate action to quarantine and test all arriving from the known infected areas until we know enough to be sure of the risk. Hopefully we are. We were lucky with Delta.
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This is what I don't understand. Any sniff of a new variant then they should immediately ban all travel from any countries affected until more is known. Surely we must have learnt our lesson by now that dithering isn't an option.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Get it done, mate. I've been down with the Delta all week, with my good lady testing negative every day since. She's had the ol' 3 for a Pfizer, the last jab being a couple of months ago. Impossible to argue against it, in my book.
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Yeah I was buggered by the stuff a month back, had a little relapse or two since. Definitely felt there was a case for leaving my body alone, having felt poorly for weeks on end, but I'm getting less silly symptoms by the day.

Having said that, the idea of spending time in hospital is definitely a no-no. Not a fecking chance. Especially as the boys and girls who are that ill often have long lasting problems much, much worse than headaches and rashes etc. No way I want to risk that.
 
paulchapo said:
This is what I don't understand. Any sniff of a new variant then they should immediately ban all travel from any countries affected until more is known. Surely we must have learnt our lesson by now that dithering isn't an option.
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I doubt we can do that with every variant but we already know enough to see this is the biggest potential threat in months and could set us back years. Not taking precautions for a week or two until we know more is reckless and could cost billions more so not economic sense let alone public health sense.

We do so much testing we will pick this up quickly if it gets here and that will help but when the warning signs are clear you do not mess about waiting to be sure as if you guess wrong it will be too damaging. We are only talking a week or two before we know more. But a minor problem can turn into an unstoppable one if we wait and trust it turns out fine. As hopefully it will.

Such a variant getting here heading into Christmas will be far worse than minor inconveniece with extra testing for a week or two.
 
Healdplace said:
A new variant we will probably stop from coming here after it has colonised half the UK and then argue it was impossible to stop it or we would have done so.

We should at least be taking immediate action to quarantine and test all arriving from the known infected areas until we know enough to be sure of the risk. Hopefully we are. We were lucky with Delta.
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They wont do anything until its too late. We all know they are incompetant and have stumbled through covid with reactionary rather then proactive policies.
 
paulchapo said:
This is what I don't understand. Any sniff of a new variant then they should immediately ban all travel from any countries affected until more is known. Surely we must have learnt our lesson by now that dithering isn't an option.
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Well it looks like we’ve got our act together quite quickly for a change:

 
Pleasantly surprised. It was the sensible idea so I had foolishly assumed we would dither and end up doing the opposite. Very happy to be wrong. Hopefully they have learned from past mistakes. But let us all hope this does not prove as bad as it may be because if it does then this will be out there almost everwhere regardlessnas most nations have no ability to shut themselves dowm and we will have to do a New Zealand to stop that impacting us - whilst knowing we cannot self sustain for the length of time required.

So let us all hope this is an over reaction as the thought of months rejigging the vaccines and yet another mass vaccination campaign with lockdowns throughout is not a good one.

Perhaps we will get lucky and it will be very infective and less deadly. If that happens it could even be good news if we manage it right.
 
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If it is more deadly it will fire up all the 'cooked up in a lab' believers who see this virus release as a plan to economically destroy the west and create a new world order without firing a shot.

I do not believe that but it is not hard to see why such ideas flourish as this thing seems relentless.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Boosters. Fantastic data emerging on efficacy. Go get your booster ASAP.

Mine now booked on Saturday.



And if you've got them, get your kids vaxxed too.
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Had my booster this morning, no choice on offer, today's vaccine was the Moderna one. That's 2 Pfizers, 1 Moderna and zero side effects. Having had covid at the end of October I'm beginning to think I'm immune to vaccines. ;-)
 
Healdplace said:
If it is more deadly it will fire up all the 'cooked up in a lab' believers who see this virus release as a plan to economically destroy the west and create a new world order without firing a shot.

I do not believe that but it is not hard to see why such ideas flourish as this thing seems relentless.
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But outside of the West, in Asia and China etc they lockdown and pretty much follow the same protocol for virus outbreaks
 
Lead story on the ten o'clock news. Obvious scientists think this could be a real threat.

Expected to be named the Nu variant tomorrow in an emergecy session by world health. The 13th letter in the Greek alphabet. Wonder who came up with that idea!

Be Christmas before we know if it is more deadly or vaccine evasive they say due to the lag cases - hospitalisation - outcome.

Scientists think we should be thanking and helping the countries we are locking down for being quick to alert the world not just locking them out.

Vaccination rates in South Africa are pretty good they add so we should see how they hold up.
 
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