Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

[jrb]

If the club had stayed in the Super League, there would have been 10,000's of empty seats and unsold season tickets, including mine.

The fact that Mansour, Khaldoon, and Soriano bottled it, and decided City would join the Super League, for fearing of missing out on the money it would have generated for Mansour, tells us everything about the people who own and run the club.

 

[joenorth]

moaning about the prices? Do you think £50 against wolves - 12:00 kick off is ok?

the thread is about atmosphere and at those prices your pricing out lots of the people who can help create it. You must earn quite a bit to be happy with those match day prices.

By the way lots of those empty seats are corporate seats/ rows given to ticketing agencies (completely unavailable to the ordinary fan)..if they were on sale at a reasonable prices they’d be full - like the example your talking about in ss3…..

Like I said 52 000 tickets sold, thousands not turning up, granted the club should be selling resale tickets cheaper,but the tickets have been sold!, empty seats everywhere never mind corporate.

 

[Elliot houghton]

What I would do to see an Atmosphere like this at the Eithad again

 

[jrb]

What I would do to see an Atmosphere like this at the Eithad again

You mean like PSG?

Any tw@t on social media can cut and paste a video to show a good atmosphere, especially if the team they support is winning. Do you think the atmosphere and noise at Molineux is like that for every home game?

As for the City clip. Match, after match, of no goals, eventually makes City fans try and spur the team on to score at least 1 goal.

 

[Lavinda Past]

im not saying either are likely to happen. But if they did the club would listen. Plus you don’t know that for a fact. If the club joined the super league it could have happened. Scrapping the super league shows what pressure the fans can create as well.

don’t understand why your so accepting/ defeatist when it comes to this. We got cheaper away tickets and safe standing recently. Two things only a few years ago that seemed impossible.

getting cheaper match day tickets, for example, is not impossible. Putting pressure on the government to force the league again not impossible

all of these things, such as pricing , standing can make a huge difference to the atmosphere

The only part I disagree with you on is about the club listening to supporters.

Manchester City FC is no more. It's now the City Football Group of which Manchester City (not FC) is a part. They don't care about tradition or local history - they are only interested in increasing revenue. That's why they were on board with the Super League and why they won't be looking to reduce prices.
They will only change what they are forced or allowed to do by the PL or Government (i.e. cheap away tickets and safe standing). Indeed, safe standing will increase revenue... as far as I'm aware, there are no plans to reduce prices for standing areas, just the same as seat pricing.
I've said for years that the club pays no more than lip-service to fans. Removing long standing (long seated) fans from Level 2 seats to accommodate hospitality was a slap in the face for fans. It summed up the owner's attitude to fans, and it stinks.

They don't listen to fans if it costs them money.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Early Saturdays are always a bit slow, but fuck me I'm ready for the second half of the season when we get some bigger home games.

 

[GrumpyLegacyFan]

Up at 7am to catch the 8.20 train from Euston, then back home after the game arriving at 5.45 - £66. Northern Line Tube return - £12. Return transport to Etihad from Piccadilly - £10. Breakfast (shite sandwich) on train - £8. Drink and food at City Square - £16. Half time drinks - £8. Ticket to game - £50. Total cost to watch some turgid crap in a morgue - £170.

And I will be back for Leeds on Tuesday, driving up and down from London, half a day off work, etc....

I love our club. Always have and always will. Home and away (despite being in London for decades). BUT...it's time to listen to fans. We have one of the lowest social economic demographics for the Premier League, and whilst I can just about get away with throwing £200 at a game (obviously many London away games are cheaper), a great number of our fans can't - wether they coming from out of town or in Manchester.

It's time the club recognised this and did something about prices, not just ticket costs - the whole fan 'experience' as the wanky Marketing department probably calls it. But as we all know - if you are not taking a table for four in the Tunnel Club Premier - you simply don't matter. And then, when some fans vote with their feet and stay at home, you get the gaffer to shout at us.

It was embarrassing today. And I don't blame my fellow Blues, but do point the finger at City Football MegaCorp PLC (or whatever the fuck) and maybe after today, they should spend a bit of time reflecting on 'why'...rather than heading off to Mongolia to buy Sporting Ulaanbaatar....

 

[Elliot houghton]

You mean like PSG?

Any tw@t on social media can cut and paste a video to show a good atmosphere, especially if the team they support is winning. Do you think the atmosphere and noise at Molineux is like that for every home game?

As for the City clip. Match, after match, of no goals, eventually makes City fans try and spur the team on to score at least 1 goal.

PSG wasn't good imo it was just alright only great atmosphere I've heard at the eithad in like 5 years was the Liverpool one in 18/19 maybe the Spurs one in the CL that season as well. Wolves Clip my bad didn't mean to add that as well was in the link I haven't seen the video

 

[joenorth]

Up at 7am to catch the 8.20 train from Euston, then back home after the game arriving at 5.45 - £66. Northern Line Tube return - £12. Return transport to Etihad from Piccadilly - £10. Breakfast (shite sandwich) on train - £8. Drink and food at City Square - £16. Half time drinks - £8. Ticket to game - £50. Total cost to watch some turgid crap in a morgue - £170.

And I will be back for Leeds on Tuesday, driving up and down from London, half a day off work, etc....

I love our club. Always have and always will. Home and away (despite being in London for decades). BUT...it's time to listen to fans. We have one of the lowest social economic demographics for the Premier League, and whilst I can just about get away with throwing £200 at a game (obviously many London away games are cheaper), a great number of our fans can't - wether they coming from out of town or in Manchester.

It's time the club recognised this and did something about prices, not just ticket costs - the whole fan 'experience' as the wanky Marketing department probably calls it. But as we all know - if you are not taking a table for four in the Tunnel Club Premier - you simply don't matter. And then, when some fans vote with their feet and stay at home, you get the gaffer to shout at us.

It was embarrassing today. And I don't blame my fellow Blues, but do point the finger at City Football MegaCorp PLC (or whatever the fuck) and maybe after today, they should spend a bit of time reflecting on 'why'...rather than heading off to Mongolia to buy Sporting Ulaanbaatar....

Fair play to you mate, but you have to feel sorry for some of our manchester supporters who have to wait 30 minutes for a tram, or 30 minutes in a car park, once a fortnight.

 

[Long Slow Goodbye]

Manchester City FC is no more. It's now the City Football Group of which Manchester City (not FC) is a part. They don't care about tradition or local history - they are only interested in increasing revenue. That's why they were on board with the Super League and why they won't be looking to reduce prices.
They will only change what they are forced or allowed to do by the PL or Government (i.e. cheap away tickets and safe standing). Indeed, safe standing will increase revenue... as far as I'm aware, there are no plans to reduce prices for standing areas, just the same as seat pricing.
I've said for years that the club pays no more than lip-service to fans. Removing long standing (long seated) fans from Level 2 seats to accommodate hospitality was a slap in the face for fans. It summed up the owner's attitude to fans, and it stinks.

They don't listen to fans if it costs them money.

That’s what too many fans don’t understand - the owner buying the club wasn’t an act of philanthropy, it was an opportunity to attain a platform to project Abu Dhabi onto the world and secure a load of dubious land deals in the process. Chaotic characters like Garry Cook and Mancini, and players like Hart, Zabaleta and Kompany perpetuated the ‘City’ identity for the first few years after the takeover, but since Soriano arrived with his transcendent vision for the CFG, the club has gradually become a contemporary version everything we used to ridicule United for.

The ‘legacy’ fanbase is the only authentic element of the club left, and as you point out, those currently running the it aren’t really arsed about us - people are deluded if they think otherwise. An introduction of the 50+1 here would be ideal, but would require financial intervention from the Government.

Our fans can’t be blamed for the general lack of atmosphere either; most home games for the past 5 years have been a team assembled for 4x the cost of the opposition, having circa 70% possession and inevitably winning comfortably - you’d be a weirdo to be passionate about it. It’s generally not competitive, and has an exhibition vibe about it.

 

[Gundog’s Gundog]

You know what I’ve just realised ?

So in the same way that a certain section of City fans at the match traditionally has to have a player to boo, a certain section of blue mooners always has to have a pop at some aspect of our support.

And I’ve just realised that the boo boys on here have now forgotten all about early leavers and their selfish, disloyal, shameful practice of not staying right to the bitter end of each and every home game. Now their vengeful anger is directed at anyone who doesn’t scream their lungs out for 90mins in humdrum home games against unglamorous opponents.

What an interesting development. Not much use to me though, in my case it’s out of the frying pan into the fire as I rarely stay to the end nor do I sing very often.

 

[Long Slow Goodbye]

What I would do to see an Atmosphere like this at the Eithad again

 

[MoonDog]

Unfortunately those fans don’t exist anymore pal, they’ve been priced out. Nothing left but corporate tourists and a few remaining genuine local fans that make every excuse in the book for the joke we’ve become. Best I’ve heard today is 12:30 is a bit early if you’ve had a booze the night before haha. Rangers get up for a game with St Mirren more than we do most teams.

 

[Groke]

When kids are being charged the same , or more, than away fans - including in the 'family' stand - for a game against wolves that's on telly, then there's a big part of the issue straight away. No issues with the atmosphere for big games.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Regardless of the exorbitant match day ticket prices (thankfully I pay FOC SC rate) a game like today's was never going to be a cauldron of noise. The early Saturday KO is traditionally a graveyard and the fact that it was extremely dull overall meant that the away support would always dominate.

I'm in SS3 & it is pretty much self-contained in there as we can't see or hear anything from lower levels but I'd ask the question if the extended rail seating has made any difference overall? From my perspective I'd say not one iota of difference.

Where the rail seats are, the atmosphere was slightly better with more people singing in that area than before for the first few games of the season. It’s now gone back to how it was before rail seats with hardly anyone singing even in what is supposed to be the singing section.

Also, the rail seats have certainly not made any difference whatsoever to the atmosphere around the rest of the ground. The fans who do sing in the area where the rail seats are sing songs the rest of the ground never join in with (to the point of obsession!).

The rest of the ground never join in with:
Edin Džeko
Empty Seats At Home (they never have and never will join in with this)

And they might join in the first time with:
We Never Win At Home (but not the fourth or fifth time in a game)

And they pretty much never sing most of the songs the rest of the ground do/might join in with.

But that’s not exactly their fault. Okay they sing some songs far too often (sometimes Edin Džeko is sung about half a dozen times a game… why?). But on the whole, it’s the apathetic fuckers we have around the rest of the ground that are the main problem.

The East Stand these days is more boring, lifeless and quiet than the Main Stand at Maine Road. What the fuck has happened to the East Stand? We used to be The Kippax, for fuck’s sake! Even when the rail seat areas sing a song the rest of the ground used to sing along to, eg, We Love You City; even the East Stand only has the odd lads dotted about here and there who join in while 95% of the stand sit there is total silence for 95% of the game (I don’t include the Kippax Corner in this, although yesterday even they were deathly quiet)

I’m starting to think other fans are right about our support.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I just checked the thread name again but it's all about attendance numbers or ticket prices. Says it all really...

I know I don't have the right to criticize Blues in the ground and I also know why our home support is what it is, but 1 thing I'd like to mention:

I find it truly sad that away fans can booo one of our players in sky blue several times and the home crowd doesn't silence them by a loud
"We luv Jack Grealish, we do..." or whatever. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
That's poor and should be different from now on.

In a match where we were permanently shafted by refs and opponent we didn't support our team in voice when it was so easy. I don't get it.

I get it now. It’s taken me a while to cotton on, but it’s because our support - and this does have to start being said and admitted now - actually is shit!

We’ve lived off our best-in-the-country support from the late-90s and early-00s for far too fucking long now. We are not that fanbase anymore, we really aren’t.

We’ve been decent away from home this season, but this is the worst I can ever remember our home support. As I said above, 95% of the East Stand (not the Colin Bell Stand or Family Stand for fuck’s sake) just sit there in total silence for 95% of all games. And we have a singing section who have barely sung at all in our last two home games.

The club certainly don’t help with the ticket pricing, but it’s the same faces all over the place in East Stand Level 1 as it has been for years. But these fans don’t bother taking part anymore, they just come to have a sit down away from the missus and kids for a couple of hours and then go home again.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Our Supporters were quiet for the first half an hour but tWolves time wasting and trying to get Sterling sent off livened things up and there was a good atmosphere around the Jiminez sending off.

I expected the atmosphere to be flat yesterday but I do think the rail seats have contributed to a bit of an improvement for most games. Yesterday was better than when we got beat by Wolves 2 nil a few years ago when there was virtually no support for the lads and the middle of South Stand Level 1 was half empty. Thst aaid, I agree with the posters who say a lot of kur

Surprisingly, we’ve got an increasingly number of Blues joining in with the signing in 209 and crest to the young lad who sings, “You’re fooking shit at the opposition 10 times per game”.

Anyone choosing to go to the game late in the day could have picked up a pair of tickets for £50 on the unofficial tickets sites. 2,500 tickets are sold through the sticker Exchange and a similar number through the Facebook pages per game (average).

Credit to Wolves on their impressive away support and their battling defensive display.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Mrs piggy was a laugh

 

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

Mrs piggy was a laugh

It’s ‘Miss’ Piggy, not ‘Mrs’.

She didn’t ever actually marry Kermit (it’s only his fingers that smell of pork, nothing else), though the TV show did allude to a marriage and many folk are confused by that.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Best £100 + you’d have spent this weekend, had you gone. Going to the match is ace.

Would have agreed a couple of years ago , can't beat going to a match but now disillusioned with the clubs blaise treatment of our fans , so invested the £100 odd quid in a nice bottle Hennessy VSOP , which i will enjoy in front of the telly on Tuesday evening and avoid fighting my way down the Mancunian Way , queuing for match ticket i cannot download ,or queuing for a Covid check and the usual motorway closure on the way home.
Give the lads a cheer for me , looks like your a bigger blue than me :)