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Would Frost (as Cabinet Secretary) not take some of the flak for the flailing about on the inquiry into the Xmas Party?
 
tactical lockdown to put the fear into people, tactical booster sales all so you're distracted from the mess they're currently in.

"Do you want your Christmas? well look at the needle and not over here at the pile of shit we're trying to bury under the haystack".
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
He’s lost Frost now. It’s going to shit quicker than a toupee in a hurricane.
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Certainly appears to be unraveling. Part of the problem is that Johnson doesn’t really have a strong political base in his party, maybe the new MPs in the north, but they carry little clout, so he‘ll struggle to rally everyone. He is more opportunistic than conviction based and now finding himself stripped of his coterie he is horribly exposed. I still think they won’t topple him until they can ensure that he carries the COVID can.
 
As a long term Conservative voter I have already decided that I don't want Johnson to be leader any longer. I reckon he has a few months at best before he is either convinced to resign or there is a no confidence vote that finishes him off even if he narrowly survives it.

It looks like a shoo-in for Sunak. Therefore two female and one BAME leader whilst Labour has only had whites males :)
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
As a long term Conservative voter I have already decided that I don't want Johnson to be leader any longer. I reckon he has a few months at best before he is either convinced to resign or there is a no confidence vote that finishes him off even if he narrowly survives it.

It looks like a shoo-in for Sunak. Therefore two female and one BAME leader whilst Labour has only had whites males :)
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You think the party that has been investigated for Islamophobia, whose current leader wrote of piccaninnies with watermelon smiles and muslim women that look like letterboxes is a beacon of diversity, do you?

Well, it's an opinion, I suppose.
 
Chris in London said:
You think the party that has been investigated for Islamophobia, whose current leader wrote of piccaninnies with watermelon smiles and muslim women that look like letterboxes is a beacon of diversity, do you?

Well, it's an opinion, I suppose.
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And a party with a recent leader with an appalling record of anti-semitism is so much better.

The point being that most ordinary Conservative voters are not racist or extremists. Obviously on here that isn't the case as an outsider viewing this forum would assume over 90% of people support Labour.
 
bluethrunthru said:


Tow people calling Johnson a liar out with Parliamentary privilege - he can always sue and prove that he wasn't I suppose - can't imagine why he does not want what he says under legal scrutiny
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I think you've mixed up Parliamentary rules with Parliamentary privilege. The latter means an MP in Parliament can call anyone anything without being sued for defamation, the former means you break the rules if you tell the truth about an MP's lying. Anyone (MPs included) can safely call Johnson a liar, the truth is always a defence.
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
And a party with a recent leader with an appalling record of anti-semitism is so much better.

The point being that most ordinary Conservative voters are not racist or extremists. Obviously on here that isn't the case as an outsider viewing this forum would assume over 90% of people support Labour.
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Top quality whataboutery. Not surprising, you have nothing else left.

Those ordinary conservatives voted in their droves for a racist, misogynist, dishonest charlatan. Still, you must be very proud of the party's record of diversity. Who would have thought anybody with a background like Boris's - Eton, Oxford, Bullingdon club - would find their way to the highest office in the land?
 
Gabriel said:
Certainly appears to be unraveling. Part of the problem is that Johnson doesn’t really have a strong political base in his party, maybe the new MPs in the north, but they carry little clout, so he‘ll struggle to rally everyone. He is more opportunistic than conviction based and now finding himself stripped of his coterie he is horribly exposed. I still think they won’t topple him until they can ensure that he carries the COVID can.
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Pretty much how I see it. This feels a bit like the end of Thatcher in 1990, but worth noting that it took another 7 years for enough folk to be pissed off enough with the Tories to vote for something else - and a Labour leader with actual policy and charisma.....
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
And a party with a recent leader with an appalling record of anti-semitism is so much better.

The point being that most ordinary Conservative voters are not racist or extremists. Obviously on here that isn't the case as an outsider viewing this forum would assume over 90% of people support Labour.
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I don’t think anyone accused ordinary Tory voters of being racist or extremist, and the commonly held general view of the Labour Party on this thread is mostly the wish that they were a more effective opposition.
The tone is more of an expressed opposition to a government led by a proven liar and that seems, by your own admission, to be your view as well.
 
Don Karleone said:




Trouble in paradise.
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I honestly don’t believe that. If so it’s so fucking funny, they’re like an office organising a Christmas party (no pun intended).

Anyway, I’m hearing Gove about to be Pm as interim and another farce of democracy, I mean a general election, next year.
 
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