Coronavirus (2021) thread

[paulchapo]

Ok , you’re apolitical but utterly stupid if you think there is even the remotest equivalence between Drakeford and Johnson

I don't like or trust either, that doesn't make me stupid it just means our views differ.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

They are a disgrace.

They screamed the headline about 100K+ cases onto a push notification but no mention of deaths / hospital data. I'm sorry but they have an agenda - I don't care if that sounds paranoid there is simply no balance to their reporting. The anchor on breakfast the other day said to one of their usual talking head prophets of doom 'Of course everyone at home will be extremely worried, but how worried should they be?' Totally loaded into convincing everyone we should be hiding behind the sofa.

The BBC and other broadcasters have consistently got it wrong in this pandemic. They have given too much weight to what the stats people say with their modelling and have always looked for a political slant. I think the problem is that the organisation is still too London-centric. Their reporters talk to excited politicans all day in the Westminster bubble and miss the real story. They have not reported the facts with any context. Too much credence has been given to what certain people have said on Twitter and not enough weight given to accounts from medical staff.
I had my eyes opened during the first phase when we were being urged to bang pots and pans for the NHS outside our doors. My neighbour is a Ward Sister at one of the main hospitals in our area and I mentioned it to her. Her reply was: "You have not been taken in by all that bollocks have you?" My family members, most of whom work in the NHS, said similar things. They regarded it as a political stunt to deflect people away from the lack of beds and the staffing crisis. They have said since day one that this was a beds and staffing crisis not a Covid crisis. These views never get aired on TV because the narrative has already been decided.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

"Frankly, if you're not vaccinated at the moment and you're eligible and you've got no health reason for not being vaccinated, you're not just irresponsible, you're an idiot. "I'm sorry. Truthfully you are."

Tony Blair not mincing his words today

First time I've ever agreed with Bliar.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The BBC and other broadcasters have consistently got it wrong in this pandemic. They have given too much weight to what the stats people say with their modelling and have always looked for a political slant. I think the problem is that the organisation is still too London-centric. Their reporters talk to excited politicans all day in the Westminster bubble and miss the real story. They have not reported the facts with any context. Too much credence has been given to what certain people have said on Twitter and not enough weight given to accounts from medical staff.
I had my eyes opened during the first phase when we were being urged to bang pots and pans for the NHS outside our doors. My neighbour is a Ward Sister at one of the main hospitals in our area and I mentioned it to her. Her reply was: "You have not been taken in by all that bollocks have you?" My family members, most of whom work in the NHS, said similar things. They regarded it as a political stunt to deflect people away from the lack of beds and the staffing crisis. They have said since day one that this was a beds and staffing crisis not a Covid crisis. These views never get aired on TV because the narrative has already been decided.

Stats people? Nope.
Nearly all the stats people I still chat too think the models at Imperial, ISHTM, Warwick and Oxford are clearly wrong.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Its clearly not under pressure from Omicron is it so are you suggesting we have restrictions because it’s not being run/funded/staffed/correct capacity?

If so I hope you are not suggesting that we suffer restrictions all the time now because of that?

we’ve only just found out it’s milder.
we still have record levels of infection and don’t know for sure how over 100k getting covid will result in hospitalisation
We have NHS staff off up and down the country because they are testing positive.

so clearly, despite being less severe than the delta variant - covid is still causing havoc and that is the reason for restrictions

 

[BlueAnorak]

we’ve only just found out it’s milder.
we still have record levels of infection and don’t know for sure how over 100k getting covid will result in hospitalisation
We have NHS staff off up and down the country because they are testing positive.

so clearly, despite being less severe than the delta variant - covid is still causing havoc and that is the reason for restrictions

The restrictions put in place at the start of the previous week and self isolation by people putting a family Christmas first have clearly had the desired effect though.
I highly doubt further restrictions will be needed though real data will prove that one way or another in the next 5 days.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

PCR testing now taking as long as 96 hours waiting for test results in Greater Manchester.

Hospital staff, locally, are being asked (obviously not officially) not to test unless they've symptoms, so I'm told. They don't want any randoms adding to the potential staff shortages.

 

[SWP's back]

just because it’s milder doesn’t mean the NHS is under severe pressure at the moment

Only 1 in 20 hospital beds have a covid patient in them.

The NHS is under pressure as it’s winter and they’re always under pressure….

 

[pluto]

Afraid no option - I`m a key worker and had to have a PCR in August and got my result in 24 hours. But it would appear the current uptake in testing has spiralled based upon the size of the queue at the drive through test centre. She also has colleagues who are sat waiting on test results.

NHS now doing rapid pcr tests if you are on a shift in next 24 48 hrs and you are deemed essential to service provision, got a pcr result today done in 5 hrs

 

[True_Blue69]

we’ve only just found out it’s milder.
we still have record levels of infection and don’t know for sure how over 100k getting covid will result in hospitalisation
We have NHS staff off up and down the country because they are testing positive.

so clearly, despite being less severe than the delta variant - covid is still causing havoc and that is the reason for restrictions

To be fair, we have been told it’s milder for the past 3 weeks. This is the reason why we have no more stringent restrictions in England. As for what Sturgeon at the Welsh oddball are playing at god only knows, you would think they would wait for this data before deciding to bring in ridiculous restrictions in a weeks time. The Scottish and Welsh need to take to the streets.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Only 1 in 20 hospital beds have a covid patient in them.

The NHS is under pressure as it’s winter and they’re always under pressure….

so that means we just let them get on with it ? There’s 1 in 7 NHS staff isolating in London, there won’t be enough nurses if covid patients do require ICU. Keeping admissions low during the next couple of weeks whilst we await the result of over 100k infections is surely the priority.

 

[BlueHammer85]

One things for certain, covid in all it’s guise’s is the most divisive subject I’ve ever known or heard of, the difference in views is staggering, the belief in these views is akin to the onset of civil war.
To the front lads, ur country needs you, forget north south divide this is beyond.
My family are torn apart, my work colleagues are torn apart, no fucker knows the answers but all believe we do.
One day my friends we shall have unification and an allegiance together, til then do what you need to in your own beliefs and let live.

Wait till The Smiths appear in the Top 100

 

[Octavian]

Wait till The Smiths appear in the Top 100

Then we’re all fucked

 

[City Raider]

we’ve only just found out it’s milder.
we still have record levels of infection and don’t know for sure how over 100k getting covid will result in hospitalisation
We have NHS staff off up and down the country because they are testing positive.

so clearly, despite being less severe than the delta variant - covid is still causing havoc and that is the reason for restrictions

Causing havoc predominately amongst unvaccinated. My job takes me into 4 local trusts and icu beds are full of unvaccinated patients. If we face more restrictions after xmas it will essentially be to protect the unvaccinated. The fucking irony.

 

[PragueBlue]

so that means we just let them get on with it ? There’s 1 in 7 NHS staff isolating in London, there won’t be enough nurses if covid patients do require ICU. Keeping admissions low during the next couple of weeks whilst we await the result of over 100k infections is surely the priority.

Or, if it is clearly milder and no worse than flu as I have seen suggested, scrap isolation (at least for certain professions).

 

[SWP's back]

so that means we just let them get on with it ? There’s 1 in 7 NHS staff isolating in London, there won’t be enough nurses if covid patients do require ICU. Keeping admissions low during the next couple of weeks whilst we await the result of over 100k infections is surely the priority.

We do as I suggested over a week ago and reduce the isolation time given the lessened severity of Omicron. (Which the Govt has now done).

There won’t be further lockdown as there is no justification for it at present.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

So from the Imperial College analysis, those who had AZ for first two and have had Covid are at the least risk of hospitalisation?

 

[twosips]

PCR testing now taking as long as 96 hours waiting for test results in Greater Manchester.

Can confirm. Been waiting since Monday for mine.

 

[Octavian]

Causing havoc predominately amongst unvaccinated. My job takes me into 4 local trusts and icu beds are full of unvaccinated patients. If we face more restrictions after xmas it will essentially be to protect the unvaccinated. The fucking irony.

I’m back on Twitter and have been arguing with the cunts. I’m getting to the stage where I’m thinking it serves the cunts right, which I know is not a good thing but I cannot help it.

 

[domalino]

One things for certain, covid in all it’s guise’s is the most divisive subject I’ve ever known or heard of, the difference in views is staggering, the belief in these views is akin to the onset of civil war.
To the front lads, ur country needs you, forget north south divide this is beyond.
My family are torn apart, my work colleagues are torn apart, no fucker knows the answers but all believe we do.
One day my friends we shall have unification and an allegiance together, til then do what you need to in your own beliefs and let live.

Brexit was the starter, covid was the main. It was only a few years ago but already life seemed simpler before they both came along.

I don’t think covid has been 5% as polarising and divisive as Brexit.

The vast, vast majority are provaccine and prepared to just follow the guidance. Anti-vac and anti-lockdown (at least up to Omicron) have been an incredibly fringe view - as evidenced by the huge vaccine numbers and how diligently the lockdowns were followed.