Erling Haaland

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Would love to sign Haaland. But that sort of high profile signing is very much against City's previous recruitments.

Pep leaving in 2023.

So who knows?
 
taconinja said:
We’ve recruited high profile signings. We’ve just also knew when to back away because they’ve exceeded how much we’re willing to pay.
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Yes, we have recruited some such. But never the front runner in a position among competition from others. We always seek to sign for value - and back away from the number one prospect for a spot always (I think) because the number one prospect is almost always overvalued.

Should we sign Haaland, it will be a marked departure from our norm.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Yes, we have recruited some such. But never the front runner in a position among competition from others. We always seek to sign for value - and back away from the number one prospect for a spot always (I think) because the number one prospect is almost always overvalued.

Should we sign Haaland, it will be a marked departure from our norm.
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I disagree but respect your opinion. I can think of a couple of instances where we were the front runner and either completed the signing or backed away.
 
taconinja said:
I disagree but respect your opinion. I can think of a couple of instances where we were the front runner and either completed the signing or backed away.
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Backing away for sure - but signing the top prospect among competition for a spot... I can't think of anyone at all.

I could be wrong though...

Let me know whom you think we signed was the best consensus player available for a spot.

Ederson - nope
Dias - nope
KDB - nope
Silva - nope
Stones - nope
Rodri - nope
... and so on
Grealish - maybe?

Our model has been to carefully scout players and then pursue value in a potentially world-class signing.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Yes, we have recruited some such. But never the front runner in a position among competition from others. We always seek to sign for value - and back away from the number one prospect for a spot always (I think) because the number one prospect is almost always overvalued.

Should we sign Haaland, it will be a marked departure from our norm.
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In the past though there has been a bidding war for such players which we are reluctant to get drawn into.
This is different, apparently we know the fee, the agent fees, the wages and are willing to pay them. All we want as far as I can see is an early decision that Haaland wants to come. With the rease clause so low it wouldn’t be a departure from how we operate.
What would be, and I don’t think we’d allow ourselves to be dragged into, is if we think we know the figures and are happy with them and Haaland and or his team start asking for extras or changing the figures. Then I think we’d walk away.
However I’m not sure other teams looking at him are in a position to be pulled into out bidding us either, or offering better than we offer on and off the pitch.
 
blueparrot said:
In the past though there has been a bidding war for such players which we are reluctant to get drawn into.
This is different, apparently we know the fee, the agent fees, the wages and are willing to pay them. All we want as far as I can see is an early decision that Haaland wants to come. With the rease clause so low it wouldn’t be a departure from how we operate.
What would be, and I don’t think we’d allow ourselves to be dragged into, is if we think we know the figures and are happy with them and Haaland and or his team start asking for extras or changing the figures. Then I think we’d walk away.
However I’m not sure other teams looking at him are in a position to be pulled into out bidding us either, or offering better than we offer on and off the pitch.
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Well - I hope you're right. Or that we break the model of signing I've outlined previously.

Signing Haaland would - IMO - regardless of pursuit by other clubs - and breaking our signing model - would be a huge boon. And I'm quite certain that our management recognizes this.

Here's to hoping that Haaland is a Blue in 2023!
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Well - I hope you're right. Or that we break the model of signing I've outlined previously.

Signing Haaland would - IMO - regardless of pursuit by other clubs - and breaking our signing model - would be a huge boon. And I'm quite certain that our management recognizes this.

Here's to hoping that Haaland is a Blue in 2023!
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Thats my point though a £65 mill release clause is a typical signing , it doesn't break our model. Like other our release clause signings it just requires the player to agree.
If he comes I’d say it’s because it’s a typical City signing.If he doesn’t it will probably for the same reasons other players haven’t in the past.
 
blueparrot said:
Thats my point though a £65 mill release clause is a typical signing , it doesn't break our model. Like other our release clause signings it just requires the player to agree.
If he comes I’d say it’s because it’s a typical City signing.If he doesn’t it will probably for the same reasons other players haven’t in the past.
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the release clause wont be the issue..

It will be the payments to Raiola and Alfe senior plus other incentives where the bidding war will commence....along with offers about image rights, sponsor deals etc etc......

the thing that has came out about Haaland wanting to be the ledser of a project (the way i see this is that he wants to be the poster boy of the team)....Kun was this for us (but remarkably low key for the player he was)....Sterling is a bit as well (often shown on adverts for the prem league etc)...along with KDB as well

will/can we offer him this?.......god only knows......do we want to offer him this.....again who knows?

Grealish - I think the club see him as this as well (at least within the UK)....

Would it upset the apple cart with other players....wouldnt have thought so
 
blueparrot said:
Thats my point though a £65 mill release clause is a typical signing , it doesn't break our model. Like other our release clause signings it just requires the player to agree.
If he comes I’d say it’s because it’s a typical City signing.If he doesn’t it will probably for the same reasons other players haven’t in the past.
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The release clause is but one aspect of the overall cost of a player - let's call this fee A.

Next there's agent fees and salary negotiations - let's call these B and C.

So a club needs to pay at least A + B + C to sign a player - assuming that he's interested.

My point is that we back away from recognized top prospects because we perceive that A + B + C are too expensive given other alternatives. Yes we might break our model and sign Haaland - but that's going to be an aberration for us.
 
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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Backing away for sure - but signing the top prospect among competition for a spot... I can't think of anyone at all.

I could be wrong though...

Let me know whom you think we signed was the best consensus player available for a spot.

Ederson - nope
Dias - nope
KDB - nope
Silva - nope
Stones - nope
Rodri - nope
... and so on
Grealish - maybe?

Our model has been to carefully scout players and then pursue value in a potentially world-class signing.
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Ederson was best for Pep’s system but I can agree. Stones, Grealish, and Aguero were very highly sought after, though.

Anyways, we’ll have a valuation on Haaland and if we can’t get him near it, we will move on certainly.
 
Come to us and let's ‘make history together’. They already have 13 UCL’s. What’s the point of going there dude? Come to your father’s team.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
The release clause is but one aspect of the overall cost of a player - let's call this fee A.

Next there's agent fees and salary negotiations - let's call these B and C.

So a club needs to pay at least A + B + C to sign a player - assuming that he's interested.

My point is that we back away from recognized top prospects because we perceive that A + B + C are too expensive given other alternatives. Yes we might break our model and sign Haaland - but that's going to be an aberration for us.
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That goes for any deal, and as long as ABC are figures we know which from rumours we seem to it will be the same as other deals we have done.I f they aren’t and are the reason we don’t do the deal again that will be the same as other deals we haven’t done. I don’t see how it’s any different to how we’ve done things in the past.
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Backing away for sure - but signing the top prospect among competition for a spot... I can't think of anyone at all.

I could be wrong though...

Let me know whom you think we signed was the best consensus player available for a spot.

Ederson - nope
Dias - nope
KDB - nope
Silva - nope
Stones - nope
Rodri - nope
... and so on
Grealish - maybe?

Our model has been to carefully scout players and then pursue value in a potentially world-class signing.
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I am going to 100% disagree with you re: Kevin De Bruyne.

You use the term "best consensus available." I'm guessing you typed that to make your point sound better/smarter than it really is, yes? Best according to whom? Who's the consensus made up of? Fans? Coaches? Football writers? Players? Left handed lesbians for Christ?

Kev was the Bundesliga Young Player of the Year, Bundesliga Player of the Year, German Footballer of the Year and Belgian Sportsman of the Year. The German rags, who hoover up all the talent in Germany for themselves whether they will ever see the pitch or not, desperately wanted him.

He was the best player we could have signed "for a spot" as you say. If he wasn't, please enlighten me as to who the "consensus"thought was the best?
 
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