Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

[oakiecokie]

I work with them and they absolutely call everybody “lad”. The younger females even call each other “lad”.

Never once heard any of them say “la”.

My once beautiful small town here in the heart of Cheshire (Winsford) way back until the early `60`s with its population of just under 7000,then became an overspill town.
We hit the big time due to its location, not too far from the M6 and companies from both Liverpool and Manchester were offered big money to relocate to Winsford, thus bringing in thousands of Scousers and Mancs into our likul old town.
Never once have I ever heard Scousers use the word "lad" as its even used now as "la" ... seriously SR, and its a standing joke as even the older generation of Scousers still use the word in my local of 50 years.
The fuckers get everywhere ... except out of town.

 

[VOOMER]

I work with them and they absolutely call everybody “lad”. The younger females even call each other “lad”.

Never once heard any of them say “la”.

Nope always heard them say "La", while dodging the spittle.

 

[Stoned Rose]

My once beautiful small town here in the heart of Cheshire (Winsford) way back until the early `60`s with its population of just under 7000,then became an overspill town.
We hit the big time due to its location, not too far from the M6 and companies from both Liverpool and Manchester were offered big money to relocate to Winsford, thus bringing in thousands of Scousers and Mancs into our likul old town.
Never once have I ever heard Scousers use the word "lad" as its even used now as "la" ... seriously SR, and its a standing joke as even the older generation of Scousers still use the word in my local of 50 years.
The fuckers get everywhere ... except out of town.

Thats quite bizarre mate. I actually worked in Winsford for 6 months last year with a team that featured several scousers of various ages. They used “lad” to the point I wanted to throw most of them out of the 2nd floor office window on a regular basis!

 

[Brewster's millions]

The PCR tests are done by independent labs and can't be faked, so the "faked positive" conspiracy from yesterday can fuck off (who could have seen that nonsense collapsing at the slightest look?).

Testing negative after you've tested positive is not suspicious, it's what happens to every single person who gets covid.


The only important bit of information is when the 3rd round of tests was done relative to the match.

Nobody outside of Liverpool is aware of the full chain of events, and critically when they knew the apparent covid cases were false positives, hence the calls for an investigation.

If other clubs - who know much more about the testing regimen than anyone on here (including yourself by the way) - are uneasy about the situation, then it suggests that there are questions to be answered.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Open those flood gates...

Asymptomatic people who get positive lateral flow test results no longer need confirmatory PCR from today (msn.com)

 

[hello]

Thats quite bizarre mate. I actually worked in Winsford for 6 months last year with a team that featured several scousers of various ages. They used “lad” to the point I wanted to throw most of them out of the 2nd floor office window on a regular basis!

Was it only a 2 storey building then?

 

[M18CTID]

The PCR tests are done by independent labs and can't be faked, so the "faked positive" conspiracy from yesterday can fuck off (who could have seen that nonsense collapsing at the slightest look?).

Testing negative after you've tested positive is not suspicious, it's what happens to every single person who gets covid.


The only important bit of information is when the 3rd round of tests was done relative to the match.

Instead of going off on one, perhaps you should consider whether the PCR tests were done in-clinic or if the samples were taken at the club/training ground (as they presumably were with the initial round of LFTs) and then sent off to the lab for testing. If it was the former, then sure, there's almost certainly no skulduggery involved. But if it was the latter......

 

[domalino]

If other clubs - who know much more about the testing regimen than anyone on here (including yourself by the way) - are uneasy about the situation, then it suggests that there are questions to be answered.

This is gold plated bullshit. Since when does this forum give a shit about what the other clubs in the league are suspicious about?

Would you agree with this statement?

If other clubs - who know much more about the FFP rules and testing than anyone on here (including yourself by the way) - are uneasy about the situation, then it suggests that there are questions to be answered.

I doubt it. This forum only thinks the other clubs being suspicious matters when it's an opposition club being investigated, not City.

 

[domalino]

Weren't the false positives declared off the back of LFT's?

it is statistically improbable that you test negative on a follow up test after initially testing positive. Much more likely is to test negative LFT and positive PCR which a much more sensitive test, A true positive LFT (i.e. no skulduggery or user error) will 999 times out of 1000 be followed up by a positive PCR.

Articles have been released on this (It's what was being discussed) so perhaps read one before jumping in blind?

This is the sequence of events as reported widely.

LFT - Positive

Liverpool petition for game to be postponed.

PCR Tests - Positive

Game is postponed.

LFT - Negative

Players still isolate for 5 days despite negative LFT.

Players come back. Klopp complains about false positives.

 

[domalino]

You do seem very aggressive towards City fans this thread, the match day thread in fact, any thread.

I'm aggressive towards nutjob conspiracy dickheads who drag the quality of the forum down by spouting off their bullshit because when you come back to 15 replies from people coming up with ever more stupid conspiracy theories ignoring all common sense it's quite aggravating.

This is the kind of stuff posters would be pissing themselves about if they saw it on RAWK, calling them cultists, and yet you can't see when you're doing it yourself.

 

[KS55]

They should ask Everton for a ruling. In the Prem you are guilty if 8 other clubs sign a letter, even if they have never seen any evidence. Mat Syed says so.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Release the kraakan!



On the subject of 'la/lad' does it matter.. It's the most god damn irritating accent in the world and I include brummie. Even Terry Christians is posh compared to scouse.

 

[moomba]

Articles have been released on this (It's what was being discussed) so perhaps read one before jumping in blind?

This is the sequence of events as reported widely.

LFT - Positive

Liverpool petition for game to be postponed.

PCR Tests - Positive

Game is postponed.

LFT - Negative

Players still isolate for 5 days despite negative LFT.

Players come back. Klopp complains about false positives.

That's not really a false positive then is it?

 

[domalino]

That's not really a false positive then is it?

Not really. The guy's speaking in his 2nd or 3rd language, after a match, and he's probably misspoken.

The only thing that seemed worth investigating was when the -ve LFT's came back, but it's not actually relevant because they still had to isolate after them.

 

[Brewster's millions]

This is gold plated bullshit. Since when does this forum give a shit about what the other clubs in the league are suspicious about?

Would you agree with this statement?



I doubt it. This forum only thinks the other clubs being suspicious matters when it's an opposition club being investigated, not City.

That’s nonsense I’m afraid - you’re conflating two entirely separate issues with very different degrees of complexity and transparency.

The procedures around COVID testing and disclosures to the authorities will be well established and clubs would be aware of deadlines relating to the potential postponement of matches. By any standard, Liverpool’s issue with the false positives is exceptional and so additional questions naturally arise with regard to the likely cause of the faulty tests and critically the sequence of events. Little to no information exists around this and so therefore an investigation appears warranted.

Worth noting as well that City’s finances in relation to FFP have been scrutinised by the authorities on numerous occasions, in direct response to pressure from other clubs, so I think you’re barking up the wrong tree with that particular analogy.

 

[M18CTID]

I'm aggressive towards nutjob conspiracy dickheads who drag the quality of the forum down by spouting off their bullshit because when you come back to 15 replies from people coming up with ever more stupid conspiracy theories ignoring all common sense it's quite aggravating.

This is the kind of stuff posters would be pissing themselves about if they saw it on RAWK, calling them cultists, and yet you can't see when you're doing it yourself.

Employees of Liverpool FC illegally hacked our scouting network over a sustained period of time, and far from being apprehended by the club, one of the culprits was later promoted to a director role

The owners of Liverpool FC also almost certainly stuck their oar in when we were being investigated for alleged FFP breaches

The owners of Liverpool FC have a track record of presiding over cheating in sport in their own country

Considering all the above, you'd have to be one seriously naive fucker to think they're trustworthy enough for them not to consider manipulating the Covid testing process for their own benefit. Now we have no evidence that that is the case, but unless those PCR tests were done in-clinic, you do realise that it would be piss easy to contaminate the samples before they were sent off for testing don't you?

 

[M18CTID]

That’s nonsense I’m afraid - you’re conflating two entirely separate issues with very different degrees of complexity and transparency.

The procedures around COVID testing and disclosures to the authorities will be well established and clubs would be aware of deadlines relating to the potential postponement of matches. By any standard, Liverpool’s issue with the false positives is exceptional and so additional questions naturally arise with regard to the likely cause of the faulty tests and critically the sequence of events. Little to no information exists around this and so therefore an investigation appears warranted.

Worth noting as well that City’s finances in relation to FFP have been scrutinised by the authorities on numerous occasions, in direct response to pressure from other clubs, so I think you’re barking up the wrong tree with that particular analogy.

Spot on. I mean, how transparent is the Covid testing process at football clubs really?

 

[domalino]

. Now we have no evidence that that is the case

That's literally all you needed to say.

There is no evidence to back up your baseless conspiracy nonsense.

 

[M18CTID]

That's literally all you needed to say.

There is no evidence to back up your baseless conspiracy nonsense.

No I don't, but it can hardly be classed as "conspiracy nonsense" when their owners have a track record of presiding over cheating in sport.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Spot on. I mean, how transparent is the Covid testing process at football clubs really?

Precisely - in all seriousness and without engaging in conspiracies, I think it is potentially open to manipulation in relation to the timing of positive LFTs in the lead-up to fixtures. The false positive issue - which we know to be an extremely low probability event outside of manipulation/human error - simply asks further questions in relation to the protocols. So there is a need for clarification.

Also, the opportunity to give Liverpool a taste of their own medicine and apply a little unwelcome external influence shouldn’t be given up, and a number of clubs likely feel the same way. After years of sticking their oar in over a whole host of issues, they should be subjected to the same level of scrutiny which they’ve campaigned for in relation to ourselves.