Media Thread - 2021/22

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

I thought that exact same thing. Saw the headline and was surprised that it sounded positive, then the article descended into the usual tripe.

What irks me with the Guardian is that they like to put across the idea that they’re somehow a cut above the tabloid bottom feeders, but they’re really not. They’re playing the same game, part of the same race to the bottom in search of clicks from armchair Liverpool and United fans.

Jonathan Wilson is by far the worst culprit. I’d call out Glendenning on the podcast but in his defence he’s too drunk most of the time to know what the hell he’s saying.

EVERY print media works to the same template, some just use longer words than others.

 

[Shirley]

Good but enemy reconnaissance is required so that others take your stance. In another walk of life it would be called a picket.

Keep up the good work.

I take it the same dipper and rag trolls are still camped out all weekend on City match reports, they did my fcukin head in and just one of the reasons I binned off the guardian.

 

[madloaf]

All of them (Ronay, Liew, Delaney, Wilson, Conn, etc etc) will routinely throw in a little sugar, partly with the aim of creating the illusion of fair-mindedness and partly because to deny the quality of City’s football would be utterly absurd.
However, if you think their intentions and sentiment toward us are born of anything other than calculating spite, then it’s you that needs to gain a little perspective. These people are part of a co-ordinated and deliberate policy to undermine us at every opportunity and to a man they would relish the ruination of our club. They’re absolute cnuts. Never forget it

And yet the latest offerings in the smear campaign that never ends and never works is "Cool passionless football". All this after Rodri at Arsenal which showed everyone the passion from the players, fans and BT commentary!!

 

[west didsblue]

I keep hearing that it’s out ability to buy the best of everything as to why we’re as successful as we are.

Who was our last signing that at the time people regarded as the ‘best’ player in that position? All our key players currently; Ederson, Dias, Cancelo, Rodri & Bernardo were certainly not in that category. I imagine most of these journalists had barely heard of them.

Pep then has the incredible ability to make them 10x the player through his coaching and his tactical genius.

If only we’d listened to Oliver Holt and bought Charlie Adam instead of Sergio Aguero they might have had a point.

 

[Edward Deadwood]

Re Barney’s Ramble: I see he is
still looking to propagate misleading slights regarding our funding. More knowledgeable people than me @Prestwich_Blue insist it is a matter of record that only 10-20% of our commercial revenue comes from Abu Dhabi firms.

He questions whether the Abu Dhabi sponsors (which he goes on to list and, in doing so, misleadingly suggests these constitute our only sources of commercial income) have gained any value from their associations with us.

Why does no one at The Guardian ask Arsenal how many of the Tarquins have taken their beloved Ruperts and Sebastians on package holidays to Rwanda recently?

 

[Marvin]

EVERY print media works to the same template, some just use longer words than others.

Every newspaper has a commercial reason to bash City. Some have ideological reasons as well.

 

[Marvin]

Re Barney’s Ramble: I see he is
still looking to propagate misleading slights regarding our funding. More knowledgeable people than me @Prestwich_Blue insist it is a matter of record that only 10-20% of our commercial revenue comes from Abu Dhabi firms.

He questions whether the Abu Dhabi sponsors (which he goes on to list and, in doing so, misleadingly suggests these constitute our only sources of commercial income).

Why does no one at The Guardian ask Arsenal how many of the Tarquins have taken their beloved Ruperts and Sebastians on package holidays to Rwanda recently?

This in a week when Man Utd were revealed to have the most expensive squad in English football, and when our Annual report revealed that City's revenue now exceeds Man Utd's. Clearly City are now self funding yet he runs with an article about state ownership and unlimited funds. That is prejudice speaking.

 

[stan bowles]

Well it looks like the champions playing the European champs isn't even worthy of a mention on bbc breakfast !

Their Premier League football web page barely mentions it either...gives it 2nd tier priority. Almost like they're trying to downplay it for some reason.

 

[Edward Deadwood]

We are City
We are City
No one likes us
Because we’re good.

 

[Andy TheCatalyst Morrison]

I am clearly in the minority here but I like Ronay’s writing. And to put a bit of balance back for those who haven’t read the article he ends by saying “this looks like the most irresistible club team English football has ever witnessed”.
If our fans are getting their knickers in a twist over someone who says that about us then maybe a bit of perspective would help.

No need to to write a response to this when @Bellamy's Caddy has already done it so perfectly ...

As others have said, Ronay just recycles the same shit about us in every article:

It usually goes something like...

- Grudging praise
- Repeated mentions of state backing
- Question validity of FFP
- Pep is a genius
- BUT they've spent a lot of money
- Grudging praise
- Subtly suggest their achievements aren't comparable to Liverpool or United
- Grudging praise
* Throw in a pretentious subtext to show everyone how very clever he is.

 

[donkinho]

Thanks for the reply Prestwich - much appreciated. Think I’ve seen you write somewhere about them targeting yourself too ?? I’ve never communicated with these people so have no first hand experience of them. The Rob Harris question to Guardiola after the cup final sticks with me though as arguably the lowest piece of so called journalism I’ve heard

 

[Bill]

Pep spotted the BBC Simon Stone's angle immediately and stopped him in his tracks.

All City fans will be focused on the game at 12.30 but there's a propaganda war going on 24/7. The first thing we have to do is to be conscious of this. When we accept that the corporate media are consistently taking a certain view, then our activity should flow from that.

agreed , so fucking fight back City .

 

[bluemoon32]

Are two of the best sides in the country playing in a couple of hours ?
Just wondering if it's been called off as fuck all on the BBC

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Every newspaper has a commercial reason to bash City. Some have ideological reasons as well.

The Guardian's position on City and our owner is a product of their 'ideology'. They are the voice of what we now call "the woke"; those who believe themselves to be tolerant of all faiths, sexualities, creeds and colours. The climate warriors and those seeking to remove traces of our colonial past. (I'm not criticising or mocking those people by the way.)

But here's where their problem is. In being impeccably tolerant, they have become intolerant of those who don't share those views. They celebrate diversity but simultaneously have a great aversion to elements of that diversity that conflict with their liberal, western, christian views. They will celebrate Islamic culture, for example, but reject elements of that culture that they celebrate that they don't like. LGBT rights is one good example. It's a part of a conservative religion but that doesn't count in the Guardian's eyes. Islam should be what the Guardian thinks it should be, not what it is.

You'll see many Guardian readers champion Hamas over Israel, yet Hamas is a determinedly illiberal organisation that rejects virtually everything the Guardian holds dear whereas Israel, for all its many faults, is the sort of liberal, inclusive (unless you're a Palestinian of course) democracy it champions.

It fails to recognise, despite the many failings of our own democracy, that sometimes autocracy, properly managed, has its benefits, particularly when it comes to avoiding major political instability.

It's for all these reasons that it ideologically hates our owner and his country. In being impeccably liberal, it's implicitly (and often explicitly) illiberal.

 

[deano ou812]

All they can write now is fake news and all regurgitated rubbish like state owned,human rights etc,the net is closing in on some of these racists..

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

Good but enemy reconnaissance is required so that others take your stance. In another walk of life it would be called a picket.

Know thine enemy is an old military maxim but our enemy is more than just the Guardian. Plenty of gatherers on here collecting pieces of intelligence for the agenda jigsaw.

 

[blueinsa]

The Guardian's position on City and our owner is a product of their 'ideology'. They are the voice of what we now call "the woke"; those who believe themselves to be tolerant of all faiths, sexualities, creeds and colours. The climate warriors and those seeking to remove traces of our colonial past. (I'm not criticising or mocking those people by the way.)

But here's where their problem is. In being impeccably tolerant, they have become intolerant of those who don't share those views. They celebrate diversity but simultaneously have a great aversion to elements of that diversity that conflict with their liberal, western, christian views. They will celebrate Islamic culture, for example, but reject elements of that culture that they celebrate that they don't like. LGBT rights is one good example. It's a part of a conservative religion but that doesn't count in the Guardian's eyes. Islam should be what the Guardian thinks it should be, not what it is.

You'll see many Guardian readers champion Hamas over Israel, yet Hamas is a determinedly illiberal organisation that rejects virtually everything the Guardian holds dear whereas Israel, for all its many faults, is the sort of liberal, inclusive (unless you're a Palestinian of course) democracy it champions.

It fails to recognise, despite the many failings of our own democracy, that sometimes autocracy, properly managed, has its benefits, particularly when it comes to avoiding major political instability.

It's for all these reasons that it ideologically hates our owner and his country. In being impeccably liberal, it's implicitly (and often explicitly) illiberal.

A superb post mate.

 

[manimanc]

I honestly think deloony and nostrils Harris and loopy lieu all reside in a residence like one flew over the cuckoo's nest, all sat round a table with that vacant stare, notepads open with scribblings of I hate city and kill pep and oil bastards, all whilst Blue Moon plays out softly over the speakers on the wall.
Deloony has shit himself in his Utd onesie, nostrils Harris is sat in his own piss in a Chelsea onesie and lieu has thrown up his alphabeti spaghetti all down his Liverpool onesie.

Cunts.

 

[Mid Wales blue]

If only we’d listened to Oliver Holt and bought Charlie Adam instead of Sergio Aguero they might have had a point.

And we would have had a lot less points!

 

[yerwot?]

The guardian is the least bad of the msm, and also the smallest influence due to the paucity of it's circulation and on-line presence. The bbc lives under the microscope of a hostile government, a ruthless and malign enemy in murdoch, the mill-stone of the saville scandal, the ridiculous contracts paid to c-list presenters, and has gone from world-respected to shambles. London-centric, poor over-sight and far from impartial. Why they have declared open-season on City is open to speculation, probably several factors in play. That must stem from the top. Biased pundits, but who chose them is key, and why.
Barney Ronay finds flowery prose to state the bleedin' obvious, most of his input could fit into a couple of paragraphs, if he wasn't contracted to a minimum word article. Light-weight comments rather than reporting, innuendo rather than facts, probably a ghost-writer for a politician in his spare six and a half days off....