Coronavirus (2022) thread

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bluemc1 said:
Of course they count nobody thinks they don’t, but I think it’s more these are the people who are vulnerable so offer those people the jab and let those who aren’t vulnerable crack on
That’s what they do with the flu jab I’m sure, over a certain age you chances of bad reaction go up so you’re offered the flu jab
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We are getting to the point where Covid should be treated by flu and I think that’s reflected in the end to the light restrictions.

Getting there has been made a lot more difficult by the minority of peole who didn’t take their vaccines when they were asked to. Some are “vaccine hesitant” or just scared but lots share anti-vaxc videos etc to try and win peole over to their extremist views. The ones I know also doge their taxes, dodge their rounds in pubs and let peole down when it’s their time to return favours. Loads of excuses are made for these selfish fookers in this PC world.
 
SWP's back said:
I’ve just seen this tweet posted on Facebook by someone I’m fairly good friends with (though not actually seen him in about 10 years).

Is it even remotely true? My initial thought is that it’s bullshit but if anyone has a good resource I can reply with as I can’t find the original data.



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We've known this for the longest time hence the Great Barrington declaration calling for the more nuanced approach of 'focused protection'. These people were roundly mocked and labelled 'fringe' by the lockdown enthusiasts, the three main authors being from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford universities.
 
bluemc1 said:
the average age of death is 83 and 75% of deaths have average of 4 co morbidities, it’s absolutely a pandemic of the elderly and vulnerable
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Deaths don’t have an average of 4 co-morbidities, that was from a select group of fully vaccinated individuals. The US right wing misinterpreted that (I’d argue deliberately) and applied it across the board.
 
bluemc1 said:
you don’t consider get the jab or lose your job forced ?

we have different takes on it i guess
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The mandatory vaccine is for front lines NHS workers and the reason why is because you’re 30% less likely to pass it on if jabbed.

It’s not for the vast majority of workers and isn’t even for all NHS workers.

And you specifically said children so what the fuck has that got to do with jobs?
 
bluemc1 said:
the average age of death is 83 and 75% of deaths have average of 4 co morbidities, it’s absolutely a pandemic of the elderly and vulnerable
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Stats and lies. Obviously the more underlying illnesses or the older the more dangerous it is. Doesn't mean many younger people with manageable condition or no conditions didn't die. The difference is some of those older vulnerable may have died with flu or other diseases. The second group wouldn'thave without covid.
So it wasn't a pandemaic of just old and vulnerable as my daughter who has sat with people in their 20s and 40s while they where dying in hospital would tell you in no uncertain terms.
 
bluemc1 said:
the average age of death is 83 and 75% of deaths have average of 4 co morbidities, it’s absolutely a pandemic of the elderly and vulnerable
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Of course most of the deceased had comorbidites and were elderly. Why exaggerate then with suck manipulated maths like “75% of deaths have an average of 4 comorbidities”. Over 150k of people died and they would have been important to their friends and family.

FWIW, and this is a minor point, I bought 2 tickets for the Chelsea game for two mates who asked for them. They told afterwards that the reason they didn’t turn up was that they wouldn’t have got in if asked to show Covid passports. They weren’t arsed that there actions deprived 2 Blues of seeing the game. Shitbags
 
blueparrot said:
Stats and lies. Obviously the more underlying illnesses or the older the more dangerous it is. Doesn't mean many younger people with manageable condition or no conditions didn't die. The difference is some of those older vulnerable may have died with flu or other diseases. The second group wouldn'thave without covid.
So it wasn't a pandemaic of just old and vulnerable as my daughter who has sat with people in their 20s and 40s while they where dying in hospital would tell you in no uncertain terms.
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17k people in 2 years dying purely of Covid and nothing else isn’t a pandemic of young healthy people
I don’t understand why when you say these things people get angry and scream you don’t care about those dying, at what point have I said that ?
 
Octavian said:
The mandatory vaccine is for front lines NHS workers and the reason why is because you’re 30% less likely to pass it on if jabbed.

It’s not for the vast majority of workers and isn’t even for all NHS workers.

And you specifically said children so what the fuck has that got to do with jobs?
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30% less likely to pass it on ? Do me a favour
Gibraltar highest vaccinated place in the world and currently highest infection rate in the world

whys nobody talking about the studies on natural immunity
 
SWP's back said:
I’ve just seen this tweet posted on Facebook by someone I’m fairly good friends with (though not actually seen him in about 10 years).

Is it even remotely true? My initial thought is that it’s bullshit but if anyone has a good resource I can reply with as I can’t find the original data.



Edit. Found the data:

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A very subjective issue.
Most Covid related deaths occur as a result of complications arising from Covid exacerbating issues with existing conditions - Pnumonia, Blood clots, Heart failure, Diabetes and immune system issues (resulting in Cytokine Storm) being the 5 most common, so I'd be very wary of that information.
The question should be - if they had not caught Covid would they have probably died or died within the next few months?
 
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hgblue said:
We've known this for the longest time hence the Great Barrington declaration calling for the more nuanced approach of 'focused protection'. These people were roundly mocked and labelled 'fringe' by the lockdown enthusiasts, the three main authors being from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford universities.
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More celebrated scientists said that this approach had never worked in history IIRC.

The U.K. Government maybe belatedly) tried to protect the vulnerable.

it’s no surprise that every time we’ve got towards the end of a wave (hopefully the endemic now) people have reappeared trying to claim they were right all all along. Whether that’s the Nerd Immunity bunch or some other bunch.
 
Head teacher on the radio this morning claiming we are “failing a WHOLE generation of children by easing restrictions and should tighten them up”.

a whole generation. He referenced how many children have ‘long covid’ in his school. 40% he reckons. I known for a fact kids were claiming to have covid when they didnt for the time off. He naive in the extreme if he thinks kids arent claiming long covid for unscrupulous reasons

utter bollocks and only uttered by people employed in the public sector who, come what may, get paid regardless.

Its over. Move on
 
hgblue said:
We've known this for the longest time hence the Great Barrington declaration calling for the more nuanced approach of 'focused protection'. These people were roundly mocked and labelled 'fringe' by the lockdown enthusiasts, the three main authors being from Stanford, Harvard and Oxford universities.
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Fucking irrelevant where the 3 main authors are from. The Great Barrington Declaration has been roundly trashed and rightly so IMO. The fuckwits behind it were pretty much advocating "letting it rip" and abandoning all restrictions even before we had the vaccines and much better treatments for Covid that we have now. An utterly irresponsible approach that would've lead to many more deaths.

Somewhat hilariously, the authors creamed their pants about it having 14,000 signatories from scientists around the world, yet the those "scientists" included names such as Harold Shipman, Dr Johnny Fartpants, Dr Cominic Dummings, and Professor Notaf Uckingclue.
 
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bluemc1 said:
30% less likely to pass it on ? Do me a favour
Gibraltar highest vaccinated place in the world and currently highest infection rate in the world

whys nobody talking about the studies on natural immunity
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Yes. 30% less likely to pass it on.
Gibraltar would be worse if it wasn’t vaccinated.

How isn’t that obvious.

Dodged the point about “forcing” and “children” I see.
 
marcus said:
Head teacher on the radio this morning claiming we are “failing a WHOLE generation of children by easing restrictions and should tighten them up”.

a whole generation. He referenced how many children have ‘long covid’ in his school. 40% he reckons. I known for a fact kids were claiming to have covid when they didnt for the time off. He naive in the extreme if he thinks kids arent claiming long covid for unscrupulous reasons

utter bollocks and only uttered by people employed in the public sector who, come what may, get paid regardless.

Its over. Move on
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You know best.
 
bluemc1 said:
but the vast majority of Covid deaths have an average of FOUR co morbidities

it’s always been a pandemic of the elderly and vulnerable and I think a disgrace we’re forcing young healthy people and children to take the vaccine
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Yeah you’ve mentioned.
 
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