Yep. Apparently Ukrainians sometimes take it as a bit of an insult when their country is referred to as "The" Ukraine as it implies that it is an outpost of someone's empire rather than a country in its own right.It's Ukraine, not "The Ukraine"
You don't say The Germany or The France. "The Ukraine" is an obsolete Soviet term used to make Ukrainians feel owned by Russia, they hate it.
Any time. Wake the fuck up! Russia is on the verge of invading a peaceful Democratic neighbor whose only sin is the desire to form a Democracy.Thanks pal
NeighbourAny time. Wake the fuck up! Russia is on the verge of invading a peaceful Democratic neighbor whose only sin is the desire to form a Democracy.
With any luck whatsoever you'll wake up to the threat of Russia at some point where they dare to invade England.
As far as the Russia is flat and needs to protect itself against a west-leaning Ukraine - that's argument is so full of holes it's amazing that anyone - other than simpletons - buys into it.
You can leave the left and right crap out with me, I don’t have time for that bollocks and I only deal in facts like Rafa :).WTF?
This is a typical idiotic analysis from the RIght.
Let's get real here for a moment.
Russia doesn't trust NATO. 100% agree. NATO was set up to counter attacks in Europe against Democratic governments.
The truth of the matter though is that NATO nations would never ever ever ever initiate war against Russia... Russia has nuclear weapons - it's idiotic to do so.
Thus the pretext for invasion of neighboring countries on the basis of existential threat - is just a cover - which idiot media on the Right - buys into. NATO will never invade Russia on its own so long as Russia does not attack a NATO nation. This is obvious and Putin knows full well that this is so.
I see. Your pendentry has convinced me. I withdraw all of my previous remarks. Clearly it's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine as a west-leaning Ukraine posses an existential threat to their dictatorship.Yep. Apparently Ukrainians sometimes take it as a bit of an insult when their country is referred to as "The" Ukraine as it implies that it is an outpost of someone's empire rather than a country in its own right.
>> Try using punctuation then maybe I will understand your ramblings.
I doubt it. First off, there's ample punctuation above. Secondly, I corrected "you're" to "your" almost immediate and prior to this post.
As far as you supporting Russia - it Goddamn looks 100% that you do so.
Either way, you have bought in 100% to the Russian-pushed propaganda narrative - you're basically a sucker.
>> Your sole reason for NATO not invading Russia is that they nuclear weapons. Think about that.You can leave the left and right crap out with me, I don’t have time for that bollocks and I only deal in facts like Rafa :).
NATO countries invade other countries illegally, spouting bollocks like they had weapons of mass destruction, when everyone knew they didn’t, despite the invading countries having weapons of mass destruction themselves.
NATO was set in 1949 to counter communist expansion.
Russia isn’t even communist any more.
NATO countries built a missile defence system capable of shooting down your nuclear missiles, and placed them as far east as Romania.
NATO are saying they are willing to let Ukraine join, by saying they should be free to make their own decision.
Russia don’t want the system which shoots down their deterrent (nukes) any closer to Moscow than it already is.
Russia probably think if our nukes are now useless, and NATO act like the way they have in the past and taken out sovereign governments and put in pro west governments, then why wouldn’t they do it to us if they could?
NATO have acted aggressively to Russia, as far as they are concerned. Russia want reassurances that Ukraine won’t be joining NATO, NATO won’t give it so Russia will feel like they’re forced to put distance between NATO and Moscow via invasion.
Your sole reason for NATO not invading Russia is that they nuclear weapons. Think about that.
One I’ve got is called history of nations.Prisoners of Geography by Tim Marshall covers this sort of area. Great book.
I don't think anyone thinks Russia invading Ukraine is ok.I see. Your pendentry has convinced me. I withdraw all of my previous remarks. Clearly it's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine as a west-leaning Ukraine posses an existential threat to their dictatorship.
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick. I fully support Ukraine and NATO and believe Russia is 100% in the wrong.I see. Your pendentry has convinced me. I withdraw all of my previous remarks. Clearly it's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine as a west-leaning Ukraine posses an existential threat to their dictatorship.
Did you even fucking read what I posted? No you did not. So here's my exact quote:I don't think anyone thinks Russia invading Ukraine is ok.
Why don't you wait and see if this actually happens instead of using words that cause wars? And hoping the UK is invaded by Russia is disgusting.
There would be no one left in Europe if that ever happens.
Loon alertDid you even fucking read what I posted? No you did not. So here's my exact quote:
"With any luck whatsoever you'll wake up to the threat of Russia at some point where they dare to invade England."
How on earth this is construed as a desire for Russia to invade the UK is beyond me - but I suppose that this sort of simpleton inability to follow facts leads one to support Russia's position in the first place.
Well the benefit is obvious isn’t it? Same as the benefit of invading Iraq, but instead of oil, it’s gas.What benefit does NATO gain by invading Russia?
What purpose does NATO have for invading Russia?
Where is the evidence that NATO has been building up forces for an invasion of Russia?
You're comparing two situations that bear no resemblance to each other. Russia has already annexed part of Ukraine. Ukraine wants to join NATO. Russia has no right to decide what Ukraine does. Ukraine is not merely a "buffer".
Red alert!Loon alert
You can leave the left and right crap out with me, I don’t have time for that bollocks and I only deal in facts like Rafa :).
NATO countries invade other countries illegally, spouting bollocks like they had weapons of mass destruction, when everyone knew they didn’t, despite the invading countries having weapons of mass destruction themselves.
NATO was set in 1949 to counter communist expansion.
Russia isn’t even communist any more.
NATO countries built a missile defence system capable of shooting down your nuclear missiles, and placed them as far east as Romania.
NATO are saying they are willing to let Ukraine join, by saying they should be free to make their own decision.
Russia don’t want the system which shoots down their deterrent (nukes) any closer to Moscow than it already is.
Russia probably think if our nukes are now useless, and NATO act like the way they have in the past and taken out sovereign governments and put in pro west governments, then why wouldn’t they do it to us if they could?
NATO have acted aggressively to Russia, as far as they are concerned. Russia want reassurances that Ukraine won’t be joining NATO, NATO won’t give it so Russia will feel like they’re forced to put distance between NATO and Moscow via invasion.
Your sole reason for NATO not invading Russia is that they nuclear weapons. Think about that.
You are sadly mistaken. Russia is seeing what they can get away with.Well the benefit is obvious isn’t it? Same as the benefit of invading Iraq, but instead of oil, it’s gas.
Russia aren’t looking to march into Europe, that’s ridiculous. But I’m sure they’ll take half of Ukraine if they feel threatened.
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Its pedantry by the way not pendentry ;-)
It's "it's" not "its" by the way ;-)Its pedantry by the way not pendentry ;-)