3 | Rúben Dias - 2021/22 Performances

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So we have discovered he is not the finished article. Which central defender is at 24? Kompany certainly was not. If anything, his sporadic errors this year makes even more incredible what he did last year. He seems a studious, intelligent chap so I am sure he will go back to basics and recover his poise. Can't believe some of the comments here - hero to zero based on a couple of poor games - jeez.
Wasn’t far off as he captained us to the league and was peerless before his constant injuries. Not a dig at Dias by the way
 
Wasn’t far off as he captained us to the league and was peerless before his constant injuries. Not a dig at Dias by the way

IIRC he was already reduced by injuries before came to us, at Hamburg I think, according to the interview he gave to Nedum on his podcast.
 
IIRC he was already reduced by injuries before came to us, at Hamburg I think, according to the interview he gave to Nedum on his podcast.
I know, that’s why we got him and as 20 year old he was lightning quick. He was still a physical beast after getting his fitness back at City during that title win and 2014
 
I’ve refrained so far about posting about his form this season.
It’s been noticeable for a while that his form has not been as assured as last season. I’m seeing some weaknesses in his game which hopefully he will iron out. I love him to bits but he isn't flawless and he seems to be too eager to get the ball sometimes and can be quite rash. Kompany was like this. Both are winners though. I have every faith in Dias coming back stronger and spurring City on to the title. I do prefer him next to Stones though.
 
Wasn’t far off as he captained us to the league and was peerless before his constant injuries. Not a dig at Dias by the way
He was 26 when we won the league in 2012 - which is quite a difference in maturity and development from 24. And he became better in the subsequent 2-3 years before (as you mention) the injuries.

And in fairness, Vinny had a few brain farts - like the own goal clearance (vs Fulham?) and the scuffed clearance that led to Coutinho's winner in 2014.
 
He’s vastly overrated. He’s a a good player but talk and awards of best defenders in the world are way OTT.

He’s our Carlos Puyol. Will give 100% every game, is a great leader/talker but in terms of technical ability and defensive acumen he’s not that elite standard.

He’s a brilliant defender, what the are you on about? A City loss really does fuck with peoples heads.
 
He was 26 when we won the league in 2012 - which is quite a difference in maturity and development from 24. And he became better in the subsequent 2-3 years before (as you mention) the injuries.

And in fairness, Vinny had a few brain farts - like the own goal clearance (vs Fulham?) and the scuffed clearance that led to Coutinho's winner in 2014.
Didn’t say he never made a mistake that lead to goals. Would be like saying Aguero missed chances or David misplaced a few passes in his time.
 
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He’s a brilliant defender, what the are you on about? A City loss really does fuck with peoples heads.

What am i on about? It's perfectly clear what i am on about.

He's a very good international and premier league defender. He's not at the Elite level in my opinion. I believe his personality and leadership skills overshadow his ability. It's that simple.

Doesn't mean he's shit, doesn't mean he should be sold, doesn't mean he should be dropped. It just means he's not as good as the awards and plaudits tell us.
 
Brilliant defender. Think he needs to be on the left side, next to Stones, to be at his best. But every defender has a bad day every once in a while, he's allowed one.
 
What am i on about? It's perfectly clear what i am on about.

He's a very good international and premier league defender. He's not at the Elite level in my opinion. I believe his personality and leadership skills overshadow his ability. It's that simple.

Doesn't mean he's shit, doesn't mean he should be sold, doesn't mean he should be dropped. It just means he's not as good as the awards and plaudits tell us.
He’s proved over the past 18 months he’s elite level. One bad performance in fuck knows how long doesn’t change things.
 
It's illogical, but since he broke up with his girlfriend - his form / confidence started to decline :D

As it appears, it's important to have a balance between the social life and career, that "Whiplash type" career-oriented individuals in the end are more vulnerable to the failure, than the people who try to somehow have the both..

It's like Maslow's pyramid everywhere, as a human being - you need relationships as well..
 
What am i on about? It's perfectly clear what i am on about.

He's a very good international and premier league defender. He's not at the Elite level in my opinion. I believe his personality and leadership skills overshadow his ability. It's that simple.

Doesn't mean he's shit, doesn't mean he should be sold, doesn't mean he should be dropped. It just means he's not as good as the awards and plaudits tell us.
He is only 24 for god's sake - he is nowhere near his peak. He's been with us for a season and a half for most of which he has played at a very high level. So saying his personality overshadows his ability is not really based on any facts. It sounds like an emotional reaction to what was a gutting defeat.
 
It's illogical, but since he broke up with his girlfriend - his form / confidence started to decline :D

As it appears, it's important to have a balance between the social life and career, that "Whiplash type" career-oriented individuals in the end are more vulnerable to the failure, than the people who try to somehow have the both..

It's like Maslow's pyramid everywhere, as a human being - you need relationships as well..
every players has dips, he's got plenty of credit in the bank.
 
It's illogical, but since he broke up with his girlfriend - his form / confidence started to decline :D

As it appears, it's important to have a balance between the social life and career, that "Whiplash type" career-oriented individuals in the end are more vulnerable to the failure, than the people who try to somehow have the both..

It's like Maslow's pyramid everywhere, as a human being - you need relationships as well..

Not illogical at all. I didn't realise he'd split with his girlfriend though?
 
I know, that’s why we got him and as 20 year old he was lightning quick. He was still a physical beast after getting his fitness back at City during that title win and 2014
Went to Hamburg several years ago and went to the SV Hamburg ground to buy tickets for a match.
Got talking to one of the staff who showed us the ground including the safe standing area.
Asked who we supported and smiled when we said City.
He said Vinnie "was made of glass" and that was why they sold him so cheaply.
He mentioned that Vinnie was a defensive midfield player, don't remember him playing anywhere but Centre Half for City ?
The Hamburg bloke seemed more upset they sold Nigel De Jong...
 
Like every other player in the world, Ruben's not perfect. He has strengths and weaknesses and we can talk about both.

He played poorly against Spurs in a team performance that was generally poor, especially defensively.

It's not the end of the world. He's still a great player, and it's a squad game. If it's a genuine dip in form then we have quality replacements. If it is a case of distractions from his personal life then maybe he needs a quiet word with Stones, who knows how that goes and got through it.

CB is one of the positions we're blessed in. All four of them should be learning from each other and pushing each other for the starting places and Pep should be playing whichever combination is best suited to how we need to play in any given game.

Although - like everyone else - Ruben has had the odd hairy moment this season, as a defensive unit the team's by and large done very well. So something's going right.

I'm not worried about Ruben. Everyone has peaks and dips but barring any major disasters his general trajectory is going to be upwards for a long time.
 
Went to Hamburg several years ago and went to the SV Hamburg ground to buy tickets for a match.
Got talking to one of the staff who showed us the ground including the safe standing area.
Asked who we supported and smiled when we said City.
He said Vinnie "was made of glass" and that was why they sold him so cheaply.
He mentioned that Vinnie was a defensive midfield player, don't remember him playing anywhere but Centre Half for City ?
The Hamburg bloke seemed more upset they sold Nigel De Jong...
Yeah, his debut for us against West Ham he got motm playing defensive mid. It was Mancini that moved him to centre back for us.
 
What am i on about? It's perfectly clear what i am on about.

He's a very good international and premier league defender. He's not at the Elite level in my opinion. I believe his personality and leadership skills overshadow his ability. It's that simple.

Doesn't mean he's shit, doesn't mean he should be sold, doesn't mean he should be dropped. It just means he's not as good as the awards and plaudits tell us.

Agree - he’s a Carragher or Terry-type defender who’s mentality takes them higher than their mobility or natural talent would/should.

On the left of his partnership with Stones has proven to be his best position, so play him there; there’s no point in shafting both him and Stones to accommodate Laporte after he had a tantrum. Pep should just restore their partnership as the default for the rest of the season and next - sell Laporte and replace him with a veteran who’s happy to be the 3rd/4th choice.

Guardiola’s attitude seems to be if it ain’t broke, break it; Sane wide left Sterling wide right in 2017-18 facilitated the best football we’ve played under him and won us the league, yet that summer he buys Mahrez, shifts Sterling left and shafts Sane. Then last season, the title success was build upon the Stones-Dias platform with Foden wide left….so what does he do? Fuck them all over this season by seldom playing them in the same roles.
 
Went to Hamburg several years ago and went to the SV Hamburg ground to buy tickets for a match.
Got talking to one of the staff who showed us the ground including the safe standing area.
Asked who we supported and smiled when we said City.
He said Vinnie "was made of glass" and that was why they sold him so cheaply.
He mentioned that Vinnie was a defensive midfield player, don't remember him playing anywhere but Centre Half for City ?
The Hamburg bloke seemed more upset they sold Nigel De Jong...
Played as a defensive midfielder until Mancini came in, can you believe.
 
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