Everton (a) post-match thread

Please can anyone be kind enough to share the video - the incident from the uncalled offside to the handball. Thanks.
 
Didn't some media people say the VAR people admitted after the match that they had gotten this wrong? I would be surprised as they know the rules better than anyone and they had plenty of time to review it properly. Anyone actually seen this "mea culpa"? Or is it just media bollocks?
 
Enough to make you want them to get relegated by a point, so they can say: “If we’d have given this penalty we’d have had a (insert percentage of Everton penalties converted in last minutes of a home game when 1-0 down against a top-level keeper) chance of beating the drop: the other 37 matches didn’t matter”
 
chaddblue said:
Yep... but if the pen was given, the second review would have been for the offside

They only review offsides if they lead to a goal or a pen, so there was no need to review it as the pen wasn't awarded
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just heard
VAR decided no pen ( nailed on pen IMHO) but thats VAR for you not first wrong decision they've given

but as for offside in build up Too far back in play what im hearing ;)

and im glad he was guaranteed to score the penalty remind me to put mortgage on him scoring next one
 
ChicagoBlue said:
It’s in quotes to simplify what I was talking about. Let’s not play dumb.

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Ifab Law 12: Fouls and misconduct

Handling the ball:

For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit.
My edit: This is being commonly referred to as the T-Shirt line.

It is an offence if a player:

- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball

- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper

- after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:

— scores in the opponents’ goal
— creates a goal-scoring opportunity
— touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
. the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
. the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

- directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
- directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
- if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger.

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A picture, with green and red zones was posted earlier.

I hope that is sufficient clarification?
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It's not "playing dumb". Most T shirt sleeves are below armpit level, some nearer elbow than armpit, so it's a distinctly unhelpful "simplification".
 
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freshie said:
Scousers gonna scouse

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I can see why they were frustrated, but this is the saddest thing I've ever seen. And frankly the worst thing they could do for their season, getting dragged into little scraps about apologies when they should be telling themselves if they play like they played on Saturday for half the games this season they'll have more than enough to stay up.
 
Rochdale Blue said:
How many times are they allowed to be 'Seething' before they are told to get back in their box. From Lescott and covid to antics at the league cup semi, they are a bunch of whinging cretins.
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What I posted wasn’t anything to do with Everton, just the decision.

How Everton have responded is pathetic, but what they do. They’re not nicknamed FullDisclosure FC for nothing.
 
dadnlad said:
just heard
VAR decided no pen ( nailed on pen IMHO) but thats VAR for you not first wrong decision they've given

but as for offside in build up Too far back in play what im hearing ;)

and im glad he was guaranteed to score the penalty remind me to put mortgage on him scoring next one
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The offside would be too far back in play? An offside player has his shot saved and a defender is penalised for handling the rebound while attempting to control it? That really would be the worst VAR decision ever.
 
I've not read everything on here but has any one rseholefrom the media or Liverpool said 'Ah well. Never mind. It doesnt really matter, these things even themselves out over the course of a season'.

It's usually the very best we get. Normally it's completely missed and.never mentioned at all. Eg Terence Twat Arsehole at Anfield
 
So we are asked to believe that the tee shirt mark is the cut off for handball.

Yesterday Lukaku was deemed offside against the red dippers and the line was drawn from his elbow to produce a line across the pitch to Robertson's foot (when it could clearly be seen that the Liverpool player was standing on the dark strip of grass and Lukaku on the lighter strip - thus clearly onside from the feet position),

Now if they are drawing the line from the elbow surely this implies that you can't score from the elbow down but you can score above the elbow. So by the same argument Rodri's wasn't handball coz it was above the elbow?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
What I posted wasn’t anything to do with Everton, just the decision.

How Everton have responded is pathetic, but what they do. They’re not nicknamed FullDisclosure FC for nothing.
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The incompetent way var is run bears responsibility for that, everyone can make their own minds up whether the decision was right or not. What annoys me is the way it's portrayed as if we are being given unfair advantage in the media and poor lickle underdogs Liverpool are the innocent victims. Let's face it, I doubt that many in the media would care that much about the decision if Everton had been playing someone else. Thirty seconds tut tutting and then back to arse licking their red neighbours and none of them questioning if the penalty had been awarded, would it then have gone back to var for the offside.
 
Norbiton said:
The offside would be too far back in play? An offside player has his shot saved and a defender is penalised for handling the rebound while attempting to control it? That really would be the worst VAR decision ever.
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Even worse than getting a pen after every one has gone home?
 
Rochdale Blue said:
The incompetent way var is run bears responsibility for that, everyone can make their own minds up whether the decision was right or not. What annoys me is the way it's portrayed as if we are being given unfair advantage in the media and poor lickle underdogs Liverpool are the innocent victims. Let's face it, I doubt that many in the media would care that much about the decision if Everton had been playing someone else. Thirty seconds tut tutting and then back to arse licking their red neighbours and none of them questioning if the penalty had been awarded, would it then have gone back to var for the offside.
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Sadly they didn’t and now we have this story for a little while.

It doesn't matter though as the points are banked and we’ve moved on to Peterborough. (Whatever a Peterborough is)
 
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