Chelsea Thread - 2021/22

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Kippaxpete said:
Abramovic, quite rightly, has been sanctioned by virtue of his association with a murderous, oppressive regime. Given this, I wonder whether the spotlight might again be turned on Newcastle United. In common with Russia, Saudi Arabia's rulers have overseen a repressive regime at home and been directly involved in the civil war in Yemen for some years. Independent reporting has identified numerous human rights abuses committed by the Saudis including war crimes, unlawful or arbitrary killings, forced disappearances, torture and cases of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment and arbitrary arrest and detention. Sound familiar? In spite of the stark similarities, both the football authorities and the government were content to wave the PIF purchase through.
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And therefore any team with Chinese based sponsors should be sanctioned as I would hazard a guess they will win the body count again this year.
 
VOOMER said:
And therefore any team with Chinese based sponsors should be sanctioned as I would hazard a guess they will win the body count again this year.
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Bang wrong pal. White European first world deaths count double it seems - a bit like the away goals rule if you will
 
Gaudion M said:
One positive of where we are right now is the actions of the west (the EU and US predominantly) in sanctioning Russia will be a bit of a wake up call for other regimes. Especially if Putin doesn't survive the next couple of years.

People go on about not poking the bear. Well the resolve of the western democracies is looking like the poked bear. Russia as a nation is fucked right now. Its a question of time before their economy totally collapses. It may not look dramatic but governments all round the world are looking at Russia and wondering how they will survive.
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I only wish I could share your optimism Gaudion. However, I doubt that the response by the west to Russia's invasion will give rise to any significant changes to the domestic and foreign policies of other toxic regimes such as Saudi Arabia.
 
VOOMER said:
And therefore any team with Chinese based sponsors should be sanctioned as I would hazard a guess they will win the body count again this year.
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No less true Voomer. While it won't be a popular question on this site, who can say in all conscience that any owner's hands are entirely clean, least of all ours? Surely, the fundamental question must be, 'where should the line be drawn?'
 
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I suppose that one of the differences between Russia/ Ukraine and Saudi / Yemen, and an easy getout, ( particularly in Abramovic's case) is Russia manufactures it's own weapons, where as Saudi gets most of it's weapons from the west ( some via a company with links to a ex cabinet misters husband) and Yemens past as a 'hotbed ' of 'terrorist activities' justifies no action or involvement from 'the west'. Obviously, it's also ok to kill 'darkies' but not white friends, unless theres is money in it, of course. I also accept the above argument that if the west don't stop Putin in Ukraine, then one of the other old Soviet territories will be next.

If this all 'settles down' and 12 months after Chelsea is sold ( to one of his non russian mates), I think there is a chance that major sponsors will be relucant to get involved in Chelsea for a while until the stink goes away.
 
manimanc said:
Yeah that's fair comment, I too know a couple of Bury fans who was grief stricken when they went, I was gutted about Bury as well if I'm honest.

Just to add, my feelings for Chelsea is purely based on my hatred for their racist views and actions from a lot of their fans.......(and throw in the fact they best us in the final)
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I get that. Horrible fans. Itll be more enjoyable to see them suffer what we suffered. But to disappear ? Nope
 
Kippaxpete said:
Abramovic, quite rightly, has been sanctioned by virtue of his association with a murderous, oppressive regime. Given this, I wonder whether the spotlight might again be turned on Newcastle United. In common with Russia, Saudi Arabia's rulers have overseen a repressive regime at home and been directly involved in the civil war in Yemen for some years. Independent reporting has identified numerous human rights abuses committed by the Saudis including war crimes, unlawful or arbitrary killings, forced disappearances, torture and cases of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment and arbitrary arrest and detention. Sound familiar? In spite of the stark similarities, both the football authorities and the government were content to wave the PIF purchase through.
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Russia have invaded Ukraine and - lets be honest - this is a risk to the rest of Europe and the rest of the western world. If they had invaded Mongolia instead then only China would care.
 
Bantamgaz said:
I know but surly if they are sold all them sponsors would stay in place ?????
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No, not necessarily. The terms of those contracts are confidential but they may have a break clause that gives the sponsors discretion to end the contract if a change of ownership occurs.
 
Kippaxpete said:
Abramovic, quite rightly, has been sanctioned by virtue of his association with a murderous, oppressive regime. Given this, I wonder whether the spotlight might again be turned on Newcastle United. In common with Russia, Saudi Arabia's rulers have overseen a repressive regime at home and been directly involved in the civil war in Yemen for some years. Independent reporting has identified numerous human rights abuses committed by the Saudis including war crimes, unlawful or arbitrary killings, forced disappearances, torture and cases of cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment and arbitrary arrest and detention. Sound familiar? In spite of the stark similarities, both the football authorities and the government were content to wave the PIF purchase through.
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A small problem with that.
1.The UK supplies many of the armaments used in Yemen. So we are unlikely to sanction Saudi.
2. The action is in support of the legitimate gov of Yemen, not pari passu with invasion of democratic neighbour. No "stark similarities".
 
Fode N The Hole said:
No, not necessarily. The terms of those contracts are confidential but they may have a break clause that gives the sponsors discretion to end the contract if a change of ownership occurs.
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AND as things stand at the moment, they can't be sold.
 
KS55 said:
A small problem with that.
1.The UK supplies many of the armaments used in Yemen. So we are unlikely to sanction Saudi.
2. The action is in support of the legitimate gov of Yemen, not pari passu with invasion of democratic neighbour. No "stark similarities".
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Those are some small problems.

People drawing parallels between Russia/Ukraine and Saudi/UAE/Yemen can't be serious. It's the exact opposite.
 
KS55 said:
AND I bet he didn't mention that UK is part of that bombing or that the action is in support of the Yemeni gov. We supply the bombs ffs.
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That's how fuckin deluded he is, Jim White going on about Abramovich selling steel to Russia for the use of tanks. But forgetting to mention the very people sanctioning Roman are flogging Arms that are Murdering Women & Children.
 
KS55 said:
AND as things stand at the moment, they can't be sold.
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Yes, I'm aware. Read the chain I'm responding to. But that doesn't mean sponsors can't rip up their contracts to protect their own brands from contagion of business links to a sanctioned oligarch.

And practically even if there weren't explicit terms in the contract or implied terms from statue or case law, Three can probably be satisfied that Chelsea FC don't have the financial means to pursue legal action to restore the sponsorship or get compensation.
 
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