City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

The Pandorica Opened said:
I also think that the main reason these things get posted around the time of big City fixtures is because that's when there'll be the most interest in that type of piece. Feel free to call me a cockwomble or a spunktrumpet or whatever.
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That is bollocks sorry. They've clearly been sat on this, the United derby would have been a better time to do it by your logic.

See I can't take you seriously, when you're seriously trying to tell me the timing of this was about anything other than disrupting City to maximum effect. Or to use your favourite saying "you have to be seriously naive" to believe that it's anything but that. ;)
 
Metalartin said:
That is bollocks sorry. They've clearly been sat on this, the United derby would have been a better time to do it by your logic. See I can't take you seriously when you're seriously trying to tell me the time of this was co-incidental.
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I don't think so - City v Liverpool as a league-decider in the midst of UCL knockout games is definitely a bigger moment of attention/scrutiny for the club than a game against a struggling United who were no-where near us. I'm saying it wasn't coincidental, it's just that publications will try and publish pieces when there is most interest around a story - that's why, as this whole thread has been saying, this type of thing gets published in the lead-up to big, attention-grabbing games for City. I don't think it's because they're trying put the club off the match or anything, even if they obviously don't like us.
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
It's eight o'clock in the morning mate, I'm making some toast

All I'll say is that the emails don't look great - it's easy to see how someone reading them would come to the conclusion that there's fudgery occurring, and I don't think there's a very high chance at all that we didn't come up with some creative ways to slip through financial regulation nets with sponsorship deals at some point.
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Not like they'd cut and paste parts of emails or anything :O
 
SomeMightSay said:
No evidence…
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You are being naive mate, those 11 instances of no evidence after the accounts have been forensically examined by leading experts in their field for the prosecution and defence means nothing.

We have @The Pandorica Opened posting, a leading expert on fûck all stating we have committed serious financial crimes with zero evidence to back up anything he is saying.
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
You are being naive mate, those 11 instances of no evidence after the accounts have been forensically examined by leading experts in their field for the prosecution and defence means nothing.

We have @The Pandorica Opened posting, a leading expert on fûck all stating we have committed serious financial crimes with zero evidence to back up anything he is saying.
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Dont forget we now are inflating sponsorship deals as well. The club has a lot to answer for with these new allegations. Its like Gary fucking Neville has joined bluemoon...........................
 
Brendan110_0 said:
Not like they'd cut and paste parts of emails or anything :O
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Aye, I'm not supporting Der Speigel or anything lol, I just find it hard to believe that our finances haven't been arranged in a, let's say, elegant way to slip through regulations at some point during this ownership, whether it's in this particular case or not. I mean, we did get done for it once, let's not forget - but like I've said more than once, I don't really care. I think the regulations we're slipping through are often poorly-envisioned rules in the first place, and I think basically every club at this level is doing similar stuff to some degree. I also don't think there's nearly enough to make anything stick in this or the EPL investigation, particularly if stuff can be time-barred from that period. So, you know, breathe. Let's all put some Bob Marley on, have a kit-kat.

I think maybe it's just a high-emotions part of the season and City fans have built up a very Us vs Them mentality about this sort of thing, so even the fairly mild suggestion that, say, City-related pieces are published around the time of big City games because that's when the piece will get the most attention and make the most money, rather than the publication wanting to mess up the club's psyche ahead of a big game, becomes outrageous and ridiculous.

At the end of the day I'm just another clueless twat chatting about football over some beans on toast, it's chill lol
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
I don't think so - City v Liverpool as a league-decider in the midst of UCL knockout games is definitely a bigger moment of attention/scrutiny for the club than a game against a struggling United who were no-where near us. I'm saying it wasn't coincidental, it's just that publications will try and publish pieces when there is most interest around a story - that's why, as this whole thread has been saying, this type of thing gets published in the lead-up to big, attention-grabbing games for City.
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I realised you weren't saying it was co-incidental, I've rephrased that.

I disagree. It would have got the same attention in the United derby(their cup final), don't they have a bigger fanbase than Liverpool? Personally, for the purpose of maximum exposure, it doesn't make sense to me to release it so close to the game because it's more likely to get buried in all the build-up talk(you don't want to be competing with other stuff). After a big game, or end of the season, especially if City win would get a lot of attention too. I think you're underestimating that they already know their target audience and the demand there is for it, it doesn't really matter when they released it in that respect.

I don't think it's because they're trying put the club off the match or anything, even if they obviously don't like us.
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I prefer the phrase disruption over your dumbed down version thankyou.

"I don't see how anyone can think" causing maximum disruption to City before a key fixture of the season, isn't exactly why they chose to release it so close to this game "and I maintain you're naïve" to argue with that. ;)
 
Metalartin said:
I realised you weren't saying it was co-incidental, I've rephrased that.

I disagree. It would have got the same attention in the United derby(their cup final), don't they have a bigger fanbase than Liverpool? Personally, for the purpose of maximum exposure, it doesn't make sense to me to release it so close to the game because it's more likely to get buried in all the buildup talk. After a big game, or end of the season, especially if City win would get a lot of attention too. I think you're underestimating that they already know their target audience and the demand there is for it, it doesn't really matter when they released it in that respect.


I prefer the phrase disruption over your dumbed down version thankyou.

"I don't see how anyone can think" causing maximum disruption to City in a key fixture of the season isn't exactly why the chose to do it so close to this game "and I maintain you're naïve" to argue that. ;)
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Just have to agree to disagree - I think the amount of media attention from the world at large on City is much more intense right now, in the lead up to the big title-deciding clash with Liverpool and between two UCL knockout games, is much higher than it was at the time of the derby. It's not just the fanbases of the teams involved, it's the whole international audience, which I think are much more interested in the Big EPL Showdown than the Manchester Derby.
 
Fair play, though, saying that "I can't see how you don't think that" was an inflammatory turn-of-phrase.

Should have made it clearer that it's just a personal, and by no means expert, opinion.

But that's like, you know, 99.9% of internet forum posts, so I wouldn't react too seriously lol
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
Just have to agree to disagree - I think the amount of media attention from the world at large on City is much more intense right now, in the lead up to the big title-deciding clash with Liverpool and between two UCL knockout games, is much higher than it was at the time of the derby. It's not just the fanbases of the teams involved, it's the whole international audience, which I think are much more interested in the Big EPL Showdown than the Manchester Derby.
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When you say agree to disagree you're supposed to end the conversation. Otherwise you just look like you're trying to have the last say...

Yes I see your reasoning but you're missing my point about the attention being on the game itself. If your argument is maximum exposure, you don't do it at a time where it's likely to get buried amongst all the other content around the biggest fixture of the season for both clubs. Try not to sidestep this if you're going to continue this debate.

As I said, I see your argument but "it's naive" to think this wouldn't get the same traction whenever they chose to release it. They have specific target audience where none of what you say really matters(mainstream aren't really going to be interested in this).
 
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Metalartin said:
When you say agree to disagree you're supposed to end the conversation. Otherwise you look like you're trying to have the last say...

Yes I see your reasoning but your missing my point about the attention is on the game itself. If your argument is maximum exposure you don't do it at a time where it's likely to get buried amongst all the other content around the biggest fixture of the season. Try not to sidestep this if you're going to continue this debate.

As I said I see your argument but it's naive to think this wouldn't get the same traction whenever they chose to release it. They have specific target audience where none of what you say really matters.
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You are wasting your time on a clear WUM and complete moron.
 
Metalartin said:
When you say agree to disagree you're supposed to end the conversation. Otherwise you look like you're trying to have the last say...

Yes I see you're reasoning but your missing my point about the attention is on the game itself. If your argument is maximum exposure you don't do it at a time where it's likely to get buried amongst all the other content around the biggest fixture of the season.

As I said I see your argument but it's naive to think this wouldn't get the same traction whenever they chose to release it. They have specific target audience where none of what you say really matters.
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Yeah, fair enough. Like I said, I'm not too mithered about any of it, it's just the simplest explanation for me; they have a story that they know will appeal to a lot of people about City, and they want to publish it when it will get the most exposure and attention, so they publish it when there's a lot of ongoing talk about City. Would they really expect to get the same attention if they published it while we were playing a dead rubber against Club Brugge or something? I mean, maybe, yeah, there's less City-story competition at that time, but I'd still bet the demand is highest right now.

You can have the last word if you like, make it a good'un, I have to go and do real life unfortunately

Won't be able to get through the day wondering if I've been banned for my incredible WUM matchday takes of "we would be better with a striker", "Mahrez is good", and "oh no I wish that goal attempt had gone in" lol
 
The Pandorica Opened said:
I just find it hard to believe that our finances haven't been arranged in a, let's say, elegant way to slip through regulations at some point during this ownership, whether it's in this particular case or not. I mean, we did get done for it once, let's not forget
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Liverpool media translation: "You got caught cooking your books before"? No we didn't, we spent too much(and we had an excuse for that). Liverpool did the same and and wrote off £50m for a stadium that didn't get built.
The Pandorica Opened said:
I think maybe it's just a high-emotions part of the season and City fans have built up a very Us vs Them mentality about this sort of thing,
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Nick Harris translation: "Weaponised"?
The Pandorica Opened said:
so even the fairly mild suggestion that, say, City-related pieces are published around the time of big City games because that's when the piece will get the most attention and make the most money, rather than the publication wanting to mess up the club's psyche ahead of a big game, becomes outrageous and ridiculous.
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Pandorica special: "It's outrageous and ridiculous and naive and not allowed, to suggest they are trying to disrupt City with the timing of this"? I'm not even sure what your arguing there. Is that what you were saying? Or did you mean to say(it happens don't worry, that's what the edit button is for) me disagreeing with you on that is outrageous? I think I explained my position more politely than you deserved to be honest, if that's what you meant. Your attitude could use some work though.
The Pandorica Opened said:
Lets all roll a blunt and have beans on toast with some Bob Marley on innit. I'm not a wum(this should throw them off the scent). lol
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That explains a lot. Go watch some cartoons in future, when you're on one.
 
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