Unions

Because if Thatcher hadn’t happened time would have stood completely still In the UK for 41 years despite staggering increases in human technology over the same period?

Or maybe we’d have evolved into a society with a greater equilibrium between the interests of capital and labour, like Germany.
Don’t stop him, he was on a roll at a standstill!!

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Because if Thatcher hadn’t happened time would have stood completely still In the UK for 41 years despite staggering increases in human technology over the same period?

Or maybe we’d have evolved into a society with a greater equilibrium between the interests of capital and labour, like Germany.
Of course things would have changed. Like the Corn Laws, slavery, attitudes to gays, etc. As in much of history, though, it takes a catalyst.
 
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This is or was our reality as a class under right wing callous bastards. And you can bet your bottom dollar, if they thought they could get away with it they would do it right now. Brexit gives them the chance to peel back so many protections hard fought and won. It's coming. Also, the next time you hear a fucktard Gammin hankering on about the Empire show the thick **** this. This was the reality.

 
Just a quick mention that the Unite Unions office has been raided by the cops. Allegations of corruption regarding their new hotel, (why do they need a hotel ?)
It seems the contracts for the work went to their mates. It has so far cost 98 million isn't finished but when it is, it won't be worth anywhere near that.
@mat Aye up bud just thought I'd tag you in :-)
 
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Unions were once the most important organisations for workers, we wouldn’t have the working [and thus living] conditions we have now without them.

But their success has almost made them unneeded over the last few decades.

They also are not the same entities they used to be. Some/many of them are a waste of time, people wouldn’t know any different for the rest of their working life if their union dissolved. Lots of workers in jobs that have unions, aren’t even in a union and they’ll never need to be.
 
Unions were once the most important organisations for workers, we wouldn’t have the working [and thus living] conditions we have now without them.

But their success has almost made them unneeded over the last few decades.

They also are not the same entities they used to be. Some/many of them are a waste of time, people wouldn’t know any different for the rest of their working life if their union dissolved. Lots of workers in jobs that have unions, aren’t even in a union and they’ll never need to be.
Until they get fucked over by their employer..
 
Just a quick mention that the Unite Unions office has been raided by the cops. Allegations of corruption regarding their new hotel, (why do they need a hotel ?)
It seems the contracts for the work went to their mates. It has so far cost 98 million isn't finished but when it is, it won't be worth anywhere near that.
@mat Aye up bud just thought I'd tag you in :-)
They told me my cash was paying for a workers refuge...
 
Unions were once the most important organisations for workers, we wouldn’t have the working [and thus living] conditions we have now without them.

But their success has almost made them unneeded over the last few decades.

They also are not the same entities they used to be. Some/many of them are a waste of time, people wouldn’t know any different for the rest of their working life if their union dissolved. Lots of workers in jobs that have unions, aren’t even in a union and they’ll never need to be.
I think there’s even more of a place for unions since Brexit as the fuck wits in charge will try to erode rights and shit on people as much as possible. I may not always agree with everything my union does but I’d rather be in it than out. And if your a Scab you are a twat.
 
I think there’s even more of a place for unions since Brexit as the fuck wits in charge will try to erode rights and shit on people as much as possible. I may not always agree with everything my union does but I’d rather be in it than out. And if your a Scab you are a twat.
Ignoring the usual boring remoaner shite :-)
There will always be a need for a well run union, one that works for the benefit of all employee's.
I only bumped the thread to tag mat in when I heard about the alleged corruption at Unite.
 
Ignoring the usual boring remoaner shite :-)
There will always be a need for a well run union, one that works for the benefit of all employee's.
I only bumped the thread to tag mat in when I heard about the alleged corruption at Unite.
Thing is I’m not a remoaner mate but they are and will change laws to suit themselves and not the workers.
 
Until they get fucked over by their employer..
And then you get the mixed feelings: "told you so", "sorry can't help as you were not a member when the incident occured" or "I'm so sorry to hear that but you changed your terms and conditions through your own actions"
and then, well I shall see what I can do, usually after the horse has bolted.
There will always be a place for a Union as managers just simply cannot help turning into wankers.
 
Thing is I’m not a remoaner mate but they are and will change laws to suit themselves and not the workers.
Fair does but my point still stands, it isn't about Brexit, it is about a decent unions, and lets be right, working with good management, to give workers a date deal.
 
Unions are still needed, but the change from an inustrial to a service economy has changed how we collectively organise and support each other, Unions need to adapt to changes and also some need to practise the equality and fairness of memebers.
Urban, on a Friday night that was too clever for me, don't take this the wrong way but fuck off.
 

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