Media Thread - 2021/22

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Jordan banging on about City spending again this morning, arguing with two blues who called in, stating categorically that we 'cheated' and were sanctioned and fined £49m over FFP in (he said) 2011.
My understanding was that we paid only ~£15-20m(?) of that and only as a penalty of 'reluctance to fully engage' with the trumped up accusations as the charges were hotly disputed, and later cleared at CAS, or was that a later, separate case?
Anyway, well done to Chris who called the narcissistic prick something along the lines of 'a vile and angry bitter little man' sorry I don't remember the precise wording, which was better still!
I still don't get why so few recognise the FFP parameters as the very opposite of fair competition, leaving, as they do, the wealthier clubs to spend more, win more, and remain further away at the top, a protectionism that the whole FFP was designed for as soon as Chelsea, then even moreso City, started to rock the cartel's boat.
The 70% proposal (of turnover?) will surely exacerbate this and, although we are hopefully in a much stronger self-sufficient position these days, surely ambitious clubs outside the luckier few should be even more worried that a shot at the top is increasingly unlikely?
 
train man said:
Jordan banging on about City spending again this morning, arguing with two blues who called in, stating categorically that we 'cheated' and were sanctioned and fined £49m over FFP in (he said) 2011.
My understanding was that we paid only ~£15-20m(?) of that and only as a penalty of 'reluctance to fully engage' with the trumped up accusations as the charges were hotly disputed, and later cleared at CAS, or was that a later, separate case?
Anyway, well done to Chris who called the narcissistic prick something along the lines of 'a vile and angry bitter little man' sorry I don't remember the precise wording, which was better still!
I still don't get why so few recognise the FFP parameters as the very opposite of fair competition, leaving, as they do, the wealthier clubs to spend more, win more, and remain further away at the top, a protectionism that the whole FFP was designed for as soon as Chelsea, then even moreso City, started to rock the cartel's boat.
The 70% proposal (of turnover?) will surely exacerbate this and, although we are hopefully in a much stronger self-sufficient position these days, surely ambitious clubs outside the luckier few should be even more worried that a shot at the top is increasingly unlikely?
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It was 2014, but we did get a fine (basically moneys from UEFA competitions withheld) of around that amount (60m euros) over three years. What his statement lacks is that 2/3rds of that was returned if we met targets (losses/squad cap for UEFA tournaments) and was thus effectively not actually paid in the end.

It's the usual media line similar to "found guilty by UEFA and banned" without mentioning "and subsequently absolved on appeal".

There was then the 10m euro fine from CAS for not engaging with UEFA's investigation more recently (which the CL contract required).
 
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It was 2014, but we did get a fine (basically moneys from UEFA competitions withheld) of around that amount (60m euros) over three years. What his statement lacks is that 2/3rds of that was returned if we met targets (losses/squad cap for UEFA tournaments) and was thus effectively not actually paid in the end.

It's the usual media line similar to "found guilty by UEFA and banned" without mentioning "and subsequently absolved on appeal".

There was then the 10m euro fine from CAS for not engaging with UEFA's investigation more recently (which the CL contract required).
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Spot on. There was another element to the 2014 stitch up as @Prestwich_Blue has elaborated on in the past.

Pre-2010 contracts were originally not considered part of the expenditure calculations as even UEFA deemed it unfair that clubs could be punished for expenditure contracted before FFP even existed. This was according to Annex XI of the FFP rules.

City asked UEFA 3 times if they were on track with their accounts and 3 times UEFA confirmed they were. City duly submitted their accounts and UEFA promptly changed the 'toolkit' (the method of calculating Annex XI exemptions) which dropped City in the shit. PB has pointed out that City would have failed FFP anyway but within mitigation limits. After UEFA's dirty trick City had suddenly failed FFP by a much bigger margin.

The subsequent 49 million Euros fine, two thirds of which was refunded as you correctly say, resulted in Khaldoon reluctantly left to 'take the pinch' but only on the basis of drawing a line under the matter for good. That's why when the last UEFA stitch up happened City refused Ceferin's offer of a limited punishment because it implied acceptance of guilt when City had done nothing wrong. City appealed to CAS and were exonerated of any financial wrongdoing leaving UEFA looking like the vindictive shower of shit they are.

On a side note Liverpool DID fail FFP in 2013 but got away with it because they failed to qualify for Europe that season so fell outside UEFA's remit for investigation and punishment and there was no Premier League version of FFP at that time.
 
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Spot on. There was another element to the 2014 stitch up as @Prestwich_Blue has elaborated on in the past.

Pre-2010 contracts were originally not considered part of the expenditure calculations as even UEFA deemed it unfair that clubs could be punished for expenditure contracted before FFP even existed. This was according to Annex XI of the FFP rules.

City asked UEFA 3 times if they were on track with their accounts and 3 times UEFA confirmed they were. City duly submitted their accounts and UEFA promptly changed the 'toolkit' (the method of calculating Annex XI exemptions) which dropped City in the shit. PB has pointed out that City would have failed FFP anyway but within mitigation limits. After UEFA's dirty trick City had suddenly failed FFP by a much bigger margin.

The subsequent 49 million Euros fine, two thirds of which was refunded as you correctly say, resulted in Khaldoon reluctantly left to 'take the pinch' but only on the basis of drawing a line under the matter for good. That's why when the last UEFA stitch up happened City refused Ceferin's offer of a limited punishment because it implied acceptance of guilt when City had done nothing wrong. City appealed to CAS and were exonerated of any financial wrongdoing leaving UEFA looking like the vindictive shower of shit they are.

On a side note Liverpool DID fail FFP in 2013 but got away with it because they failed to qualify for Europe that season so fell outside UEFA's remit for investigation and punishment and there was no Premier League version of FFP at that time.
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Great post, should be preserved for posterity
 
The failed club owner comments. Stick to selling sh*t phones, you Cockney market stall Wide Boy.

What would you know Jordan you clueless c*nt! You haven't got a clue what the contract discussions and negotiations are.

Another City hater, given free hate-time on Talk Shite!

Simon Jordan has insisted that the only reason Erling Haaland would choose Manchester City over Real Madrid is the money he would get at the Etihad.​


Real Madrid are also interested but Manchester City are in pole position and Jordan insisted money is the sole reason why Haaland would choose a move to the Etihad over the Bernabeu.

He stressed that the money Manchester City are prepared to splash on the Norwegian is ridiculous but believes that is the reason why he would consider joining them.

“He is going to go and get a million pounds a week and Manchester City are going to be disgusting enough to pay it.

“It’s grotesque.

In that case it's only going to take Haaland a year to earn what you lost after buying, investing, and losing your money as the ex-owner of Palace.
 
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Yeah cause am sure Mr Jordan that Haaland would play for Real Madrid completly free :)

Stupid statement
 
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