North Stand Construction Discussion

[Jazzyblue]

Exactly , it's not rocket science, we have a huge working class fanbase, give them easy to obtain, reasonably priced tickets and we will fill a expanded stadium and create the atmosphere like yesterday far more often.

Corporate is needed for cash revenue but the downside is your selling your soul and killing the atmosphere.

Sort it out Soriano, this is a fans club.

Luxury pricing endangers that culture that football was built on - that following your local team is something anyone can do at the weekend, and you can pop in or out of the habit at any time, but more likely once you're in, you're in. How many people who would once have been able to wander down on a matchday are now only going to lower league, non-league, or just staying in with Sky?. The message needs to come out from the club that even if you've never been to a match, this club is for you, and we want you with us. I think some at the club, including Pep, believe in that vibe and we are seeing some progress, but there are also backward steps. For example I'll be interested to see if matchday tickets go up along with STs next season. If we're edging up to asking for £50 or £60 to see Watford on a Wednesday night that is not sustainable and it will dampen atmosphere. Nothing wrong with tourism but how much of City's natural support is concentrated along the A6, A56, up the A62 and A635, and along the A57, A5103 and Wilmslow Road? Quite a lot of it I'd bet, and not millionaires either. It's all about balance.

 

[Keeper!]

Luxury pricing endangers that culture that football was built on - that following your local team is something anyone can do at the weekend, and you can pop in or out of the habit at any time, but more likely once you're in, you're in. How many people who would once have been able to wander down on a matchday are now only going to lower league, non-league, or just staying in with Sky?. The message needs to come out from the club that even if you've never been to a match, this club is for you, and we want you with us. I think some at the club, including Pep, believe in that vibe and we are seeing some progress, but there are also backward steps. For example I'll be interested to see if matchday tickets go up along with STs next season. If we're edging up to asking for £50 or £60 to see Watford on a Wednesday night that is not sustainable and it will dampen atmosphere. Nothing wrong with tourism but how much of City's natural support is concentrated along the A6, A56, up the A62 and A635, and along the A57, A5103 and Wilmslow Road? Quite a lot of it I'd bet, and not millionaires either. It's all about balance.

100% agree, great post.

Let's be the people's club, another wonderful way to shove the bad PR down the throats of the red shirt clubs.

 

[Time will pass me by]

Not sure if I’ve missed something. I thought this wasn’t happening.

 

[unicorn]

Villa turning us around (so we attacked the South Stand in the second half) worked out brilliantly. We sucked those three goals into the back of the net. Atmosphere all over the ground was incredible, but it showed how much a raucous end can help the lads late on.

I was putting our performance down to attacking North Stand first for 70 minutes ! How many times have we had to do that ?, very rare.

 

[M18CTID]

Just saw this on Twitter. Sounds like it might be going ahead?

 

[Centurions]

Not sure if I’ve missed something. I thought this wasn’t happening.

Put back until the Arena is finished.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

If it’s just another third tier it would be such a wasted opportunity.

we need a proper home end. Hopefully the fans can influence the decision makers

my fear is that they will make east stand level one basically the tunnel club.2 and the expanded north stand will be all the season ticket holders forced out of their seats

 

[jrb]

Just saw this on Twitter. Sounds like it might be going ahead?

Interesting mate.

If true, an extra 10,000 seats/safe standing. What looks like a different roof and different cable structure to hold the roof up. More like a bowl roof, overlaping at the sides, to keep the noise in??

 

[Forzacitizens]

Absolutely nailed it jrb.

This is what annoys me when we get the 'empty seats jibe. Would they say the same about people who couldn't afford to go to any other reasonably expensive event? It's so snobbish and arrogant

 

[baggy]

I was putting our performance down to attacking North Stand first for 70 minutes ! How many times have we had to do that ?, very rare.

I said exactly this before kick off as it's I think that's the only game in about 3/4 years we've kicked towards the SS in the second half and questioned it with my mates at the game for years. Is the aguero goal the reason why? It's 100% a pre agreement with away clubs but we need to be kicking towards our singing section for the 2nd half whenever possible...

 

[jrb]

Here.

Roof cables at the front of the NS. Roof cables 2/3rds of the way down on the SS. CB and ES roofs stay the same.

Sligtly curved oval, overlaping NS roof. Defo to keep the noise in.

If true, this is promising?

 

[jrb]

Here.

Roof cables at the front of the NS. Roof cables 2/3rds of the way down on the SS. CB and ES roofs stay the same.

Sligtly curved oval, overlaping NS roof. Defo to keep the noise in.

If true, this is promising?

Is there anyone with photoshop skills who could create a likeness of the North stand expansion from the above drawing on to this aerial picture of the Etihad?

I appreciate it won't be easy to get the overall shape of the roof from the drawing and add it to the picture. Any attempt would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

pundit jay - Twitter

PS. City Square would have to go, unless it was somehow incorporated into the new stand.

 

[StrutterBlue]

Is there anyone with photoshop skills who could create a likeness of the North stand expansion from the above drawing on to this aerial picture of the Etihad?

I appreciate it won't be easy to get the overall shape of the roof from the drawing and add it to the picture. Any attempt would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

pundit jay - Twitter

PS. City Square would have to go, unless it was somehow incorporated into the new stand.

Could anything be done with these areas, like newer bigger city square? New bigger shop, because let's face it the size of the current one isn't big enough for purpose anymore, can barely move on match days.

 

[blueyorkie]

But yesterday is a good example, sat in City Square and around the ground, in the stadium there were I guess 45,000 City fans, not corporate, ordinary City fans the same City fans that go most weeks. So if you want a better atmosphere then these are the fans that will create it same as they do more often than you suggest. Whether there are corporate fans in there or not makes no difference to whether tose 45,000 ordinary blues do or don't ramp up the atmosphere.

I’m not in corporate but what makes you think that a lot of them aren’t dedicated City fans? I know there’s the hangers on but a lot will be die hards who are lucky enough to have a few bob!

 

[peps bald head]

Maybe people are factoring in the Haaland signing, a Pep extension, the arena & even more success, our owners are also looking at making us the leading football/sports club in the world, with the best facilities & innovation, I think I read/heard somewhere they where looking at a 20 year project in all, some outsiders took that as they’ll be off in a few years, if you look at the timeline of the arena, it leaves 5-6 years to complete the stadium & surrounding areas, obviously the club are being cautious post covid & will factor in the current economical climate, but they have shown to be relentless in what they want to achieve, we also have investors who will be looking for the club to continue its momentum. I have absolutely no doubt we will sell the seats, whether we fill them is an ongoing matter for the club

Do you mean this "Any kind of investment that’s been made by City over the years is to overtake 20 years of an advantage by any other club. Of course if you take a lens at it and you say, ‘Well City have invested in the last five or 10 years,’ of course, because you’re trying to avoid 20 or 30 years of dominance from another club.

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Initially i though you meant that our owners would leave after 20 years lol - had nearly a heart attack.

 

[HelloCity]

Here.

Roof cables at the front of the NS. Roof cables 2/3rds of the way down on the SS. CB and ES roofs stay the same.

Sligtly curved oval, overlaping NS roof. Defo to keep the noise in.

If true, this is promising?

It’s just a sketch by an illustrator for the mag. It’s not based on any design.

 

[blue oli]

I’m not in corporate but what makes you think that a lot of them aren’t dedicated City fans? I know there’s the hangers on but a lot will be due hards who are lucky enough to have a few bob!

I’m in corporate and been a fan for nearly 50 years

 

[peps bald head]

I’m sure the Arena will open loads of doors for the stadium and collar site.


But I find it so frustrating that our crowd growth has stalled in our greatest ever period.

When the South Stand was built I honestly thought the North Stand would follow quickly.

But now we sit in a position where a majority of the lesser games are not sold out even after reducing capacity.

Spurs West Ham are now well ahead of us in attendances and LFC will be joining them soon in the 60k bracket.

Great opportunity missed

Club is banking on international fan growth, and tourism - which will kick in at some point // surely this decade with all our success.

 

[Danamy]

Is there anyone with photoshop skills who could create a likeness of the North stand expansion from the above drawing on to this aerial picture of the Etihad?

I appreciate it won't be easy to get the overall shape of the roof from the drawing and add it to the picture. Any attempt would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

pundit jay - Twitter

PS. City Square would have to go, unless it was somehow incorporated into the new stand.

You will probably remember that this discussion was a hot topic back in 2014: https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/...ollar-site-development-thread.299783/page-129

The phasing is going to plan albeit slightly delayed but the icing on the cake will be to wrap the whole stadium once all the other work is completed

 

[blueparrot]

I’m not in corporate but what makes you think that a lot of them aren’t dedicated City fans? I know there’s the hangers on but a lot will be die hards who are lucky enough to have a few bob!

Yes, I’ve no doubt, I was just making the point , there is a suggestion that reducing prices would allow ‘real City ‘ fans to come back, and they had been sacrificed for selling more corporate.I was saying the ground is full of real City fans still, and as you say including a fair few corporate.
Reducing prices would just mean those going now would pay less it wouldn’t make room for more fans whether new or old returning fans.
Extension will make room and no doubt when they do it it will have cheaper seats like the South did.
The only point I’d make is maybe give new fans fist dibs on the cheaper tickets not offer them to relocations first, and save some blocks for matchday so groups can buy matchday tickets sat together.