How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[mexico1970]

Ha ha ha - enjoy your next trip abroad and buying something on E-Bay from Germany or France

Was abroad last month and as for paying taxes (That's what you mean?) I don't mind paying taxes at all because I do for other parts of the world.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I have answered your question clearly, I didn't have any rights to lose and still have had absolutely no impact on my life since Brexit happened

Honestly - if you really believe that you have a lot of learning and reading coming your way - and before you ask no I am not your bitch I won't quote it all for you plenty of us have but if you don't educate yourself as to what being in the EU and being out of the EU impacts you have many many major shocks coming to you - in fact your idea that you can just go to work in the EU on the same basis as you could before we became a 3rd country illustrates ignorance or extreme denial

 

[bluethrunthru]

Was abroad last month and as for paying taxes (That's what you mean?) I don't mind paying taxes at all because I do for other parts of the world.

nope - way way more than that - thanks for confirming what I just said

 

[mexico1970]

Honestly - if you really believe that you have a lot of learning and reading coming your way - and before you ask no I am not your bitch I won't quote it all for you plenty of us have but if you don't educate yourself as to what being in the EU and being out of the EU impacts you have many many major shocks coming to you - in fact your idea that you can just go to work in the EU on the same basis as you could before we became a 3rd country illustrates ignorance or extreme denial

Nonsensical reply if I ever read one, I don't need to work and have no need to learn. Unlike you I don't mind paying foreign taxes or waiting in a queue.

What sort of weird "I am not your bitch" remark was that?

 

[mexico1970]

nope - way way more than that - thanks for confirming what I just said

That's exactly what you meant because you bloody wrote it.

 

[hilts]

Honestly - if you really believe that you have a lot of learning and reading coming your way - and before you ask no I am not your bitch I won't quote it all for you plenty of us have but if you don't educate yourself as to what being in the EU and being out of the EU impacts you have many many major shocks coming to you - in fact your idea that you can just go to work in the EU on the same basis as you could before we became a 3rd country illustrates ignorance or extreme denial

#Iwasntplanningonworkingabroadbutbecauseilostipretenditsimportantplusformeitmakesmyheadhurtsadface

 

[mexico1970]

#Iwasntplanningonworkingabroadbutbecauseilostipretenditsimportantplusformeitmakesmyheadhurtsadface

You'll never get a job at Yves St Lauren in Paris with that attitude fella :)

 

[hilts]

You'll never get a job at Yves St Lauren in Paris with that attitude fella :)

I had my case packed and then racists from hartlepool stole my dream. I see the current GDP figures and it breaks my heart. Has any generation suffered like the brexit generation? Seems unlikely.

#Ihavenothingtodeclare

 

[bluethrunthru]

That's exactly what you meant because you bloody wrote it.

I agree that I wrote it but you read it to mean what you wanted it to. Import something via E-Bay from the EU - you will find that thanks to tariffs and form filling etc it will take far longer than it used to and cost far more - I know of people who end up paying more for a single item shipment that the value of the single item thanks to tariffs and shipping costs.

Yesterday we had an impromptu drinks in the street for the jubilee. Guy from a neighbouring street came through walking his dog and stopped off an offered drink. He is freelance works in europe a lot and has a gaff in Spain. He varies his time between here - Cadiz and working in the EU and has his diary worked out at least 12 months in advance. Turns out its decision time - due to us becoming a 3rd country he now faces a choice - sell up in Cadiz and stay between here and the EU for work or do less work because he previously spent more than 90 days in 180 in the EU. If he cuts down on work he loses contracts and he has been told that property sales by Brits in Spain are being treated as a fire sale and Belgians and Dutch incomers expect that to be reflected in the price.

He blamed it on the EU and its new rules as I am sure you would. Anyway his labradoodle was gorgeous - really friendly and loved a few Wotsits

 

[bluethrunthru]

racists from hartlepool stole my dream.

How dare you - they are monkey hangers not racists lol

 

[mexico1970]

I agree that I wrote it but you read it to mean what you wanted it to. Import something via E-Bay from the EU - you will find that thanks to tariffs and form filling etc it will take far longer than it used to and cost far more - I know of people who end up paying more for a single item shipment that the value of the single item thanks to tariffs and shipping costs.

Yesterday we had an impromptu drinks in the street for the jubilee. Guy from a neighbouring street came through walking his dog and stopped off an offered drink. He is freelance works in europe a lot and has a gaff in Spain. He varies his time between here - Cadiz and working in the EU and has his diary worked out at least 12 months in advance. Turns out its decision time - due to us becoming a 3rd country he now faces a choice - sell up in Cadiz and stay between here and the EU for work or do less work because he previously spent more than 90 days in 180 in the EU. If he cuts down on work he loses contracts and he has been told that property sales by Brits in Spain are being treated as a fire sale and Belgians and Dutch incomers expect that to be reflected in the price.

He blamed it on the EU and its new rules as I am sure you would. Anyway his labradoodle was gorgeous - really friendly and loved a few Wotsits

So we are back to queuing again, again I have travelled recently and I buy from ebay frequently and apart from paying taxes nothing has changed.

So I should start a gofundyou page for your mate in Cadiz? I can't even begin to understand what that was about :)

 

[bluethrunthru]

I don't need to work and have no need to learn.

You are a Brexitland citizen then - no need to work ( nor do I ) and no need to learn. What is the point of having a mind if you cannot expand it nor change it? For me every day is a potential school day.

 

[mexico1970]

You are a Brexitland citizen then - no need to work ( nor do I ) and no need to learn. What is the point of having a mind if you cannot expand it nor change it? For me every day is a potential school day.

I voted to remain, I have seen both sides of the coin mate and for my grandchildrens sake I just thought I would vote for what I thought they would like.

However I will and can adapt it's what I do.

 

[hilts]

I agree that I wrote it but you read it to mean what you wanted it to. Import something via E-Bay from the EU - you will find that thanks to tariffs and form filling etc it will take far longer than it used to and cost far more - I know of people who end up paying more for a single item shipment that the value of the single item thanks to tariffs and shipping costs.

Yesterday we had an impromptu drinks in the street for the jubilee. Guy from a neighbouring street came through walking his dog and stopped off an offered drink. He is freelance works in europe a lot and has a gaff in Spain. He varies his time between here - Cadiz and working in the EU and has his diary worked out at least 12 months in advance. Turns out its decision time - due to us becoming a 3rd country he now faces a choice - sell up in Cadiz and stay between here and the EU for work or do less work because he previously spent more than 90 days in 180 in the EU. If he cuts down on work he loses contracts and he has been told that property sales by Brits in Spain are being treated as a fire sale and Belgians and Dutch incomers expect that to be reflected in the price.

He blamed it on the EU and its new rules as I am sure you would. Anyway his labradoodle was gorgeous - really friendly and loved a few Wotsits

Heartbreaking like a spanish schindlers list

 

[Ric]

Maybe it might’ve taken a different guise if Cameron hadn’t abandoned ship straight after the vote. If he’d stayed to see it through, him being a Remainer might’ve seen us get a deal that didn’t burn quite so many bridges.

Also, Labour came a lot closer to winning the 2017 election than expected. If they’d won, we’d have surely gotten a different Brexit than we ended up with. So I don’t think it was ever a given that we knew who was implementing it.

No doubt what we ended up with was a shit show though!

Yeah, fair point although I think it was fairly obvious that Cameron’s position would become immediately untenable if Leave won. I don’t think Labour came that close to winning in 2019 either. I guess not many Leavers would’ve voted for the current situation though. Who would actively want to make their lives worse?

 

[bluethrunthru]

So we are back to queuing again, again I have travelled recently and I buy from ebay frequently and apart from paying taxes nothing has changed.

So I should start a gofundyou page for your mate in Cadiz? I can't even begin to understand what that was about :)

Queuing - the word that didn't appear in that post? Laughable.
No need he just will earn less and not pay the same taxes into the exchequer - and thats how economies contract - nobody campaigned on a smaller economy they said it would all grow if we left - the fact that somehow your world will be unaffected - which it won't be - and everyone else will suffer but things will progress as normal beggars belief and given all the evidence presented if you cannot see that you are not worth the effort discussing it with, We need answers not denial.

 

[mexico1970]

Queuing - the word that didn't appear in that post? Laughable.
No need he just will earn less and not pay the same taxes into the exchequer - and thats how economies contract - nobody campaigned on a smaller economy they said it would all grow if we left - the fact that somehow your world will be unaffected - which it won't be - and everyone else will suffer but things will progress as normal beggars belief and given all the evidence presented if you cannot see that you are not worth the effort discussing it with, We need answers not denial.

What part of I voted to remain didn't you understand? Stop complaining or get on with it, maybe write to your MP or travel to Cadiz to help your mate out.

Your predicament isn't my fault it's yours.

 

[Grassland Blue]

None so deaf/blind as those who refuse to hear/see. Some have benefitted from the deliberate attack on living standards, the other 99% contain the hard-core fail-readers who would never in public admit the whole brexit heist was enabled using racism and deliberate lies to sway the apolitical and disillusioned by fantastic impossible claims, "oven-ready, the bus, easiest deal in history, we wont destroy worker's right, 250 new hospitals" etc. All bought and paid for with russian money, bungs to murdoch and co. The brexit thread showed how successful their strategy was. Some of it plain attention-seeking, but not all, the right-wing fervour reached religious levels of blind loyalty.

I am still at a loss as to how so many people thought brexit would be a good idea for this country?
A few minutes analysis would have shown how bad an idea it really was.
Then again there are millions of rag supporters, so perhaps it wasn't such a surprise after all...

 

[oldius]

Propensity to vote for Brexit increased with age and decreased with more education, they are the facts. As it is, we have damaged ourselves very badly, both economically and socially, and many businesses in the EU will now simply not supply goods to the UK, such is the expense and the administrative difficulty.

To give an idea of the duplicity involved, Private Eye investigated Rees Mogg, who told investors, on moving his fund to Dublin, “During, and possibly after, this period (leaving the EU) there is likely to be considerable uncertainty as to the position of the UK and the arrangements which will apply to its relationships with the EU." This is a man who then dismissed such concerns as 'Project Fear' when speaking to the electorate. Had he and his colleagues been honest, we may have seen a different outcome.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

I am still at a loss as to how so many people thought brexit would be a good idea for this country?
A few minutes analysis would have shown how bad an idea it really was.
Then again there are millions of rag supporters, so perhaps it wasn't such a surprise after all...

You can’t blame the people though. The politicians and all the people now in uproar should have seen this coming but nobody asked the right questions before the vote about the vote itself. That’s what I’m still at a loss at. That’s when our fate was sealed.