Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

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I'm With Stupid said:
I reckon you can count Salah. I know he wasn't exactly cheap, but if you looked at his stats in Italy, no-one could have predicted that he would become one of the best goalscorers in the world.
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IMO they got lucky, just like Redknapp at Spurs with Modric et al
The proof will be if their great recruitment continues
 
Silly question here perhaps - but have they always been like this and we are just paying more attention to them now since they appear to he our main threat or has their media love in and all the crap they spout gotten worse.

Is our success connected to their increased bullshit rhetoric?
 
None of us want Jesus to leave but if he does he gets a thanks a hand shake and a pat on the back as he turns and heads for the door - in dipperland it cumulates in death threats

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Losing Mane is a massive blow to the Paris Pussies , and spending £100m on an unproven replacement at Premier league level is just a sign of desperation , as for next season if Levy gives Conte the funds i think Spuds will run us closer than the Dippers , but at least the will still have their biggest game of the season against the Rags , the "nearly men" derby.
 
Ted_Bovis said:
Silly question here perhaps - but have they always been like this and we are just paying more attention to them now since they appear to he our main threat or has their media love in and all the crap they spout gotten worse.

Is our success connected to their increased bullshit rhetoric?
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Dipper fans have been scummy since at least the 70's with jibbing in going on since then. I did not quite understand why some rag mates hated them so vehemently when they were competing with them and the same for Chelsea.
It is sometimes easy to watch some of the football they have played (e.g. the likes of Barnes, Gerard etc.) and fall for the media spin. You only see the truth once you are direct rivals with them.
 
Djibrilshairdo said:
That’ll be the scousers that jibbed in laughing at the scousers who actually paid for a ticket.
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C'mon, c'mon are kid, nobody jibbed in, nobody had fake tickets, nobody climbed over fences, Klopp never told people to go without tickets and the.pictures of the Liverpool sections so crowded that the aisles were full and still large numbers locked outside were just trick photography. Don't you read the press, la?

I've just read an article by Marti Samuel who is just as big a liar as the rest of them. And it's pissed me off 'big style' as they say.
 
urban genie said:
I have been shown a fb page by a fellow bert which has given new meaning to Liverpool cult fuckery

I give you the liverpool thought bank

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Now they have the BEST TRANSFERS IN THE WERLD TROPHY to go alongside net spend and most banners.


I know the open letter to lewandowski posted already was these clowns too, but seems every post is fully deluded ;-)
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They win every trophy that nobody. certainly from City, care about.

#mentalitymonsters they call themselves, that's great but when the chips go down they're a bottle job.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Losing Mane is a massive blow to the Paris Pussies , and spending £100m on an unproven replacement at Premier league level is just a sign of desperation , as for next season if Levy gives Conte the funds i think Spuds will run us closer than the Dippers , but at least the will still have their biggest game of the season against the Rags , the "nearly men" derby.
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Liverpool go through fazes of bringing together a good group of players like they did in 2014 when they had the likes of Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho pushing for the league. Then they all vanish and they go backwards, it’s happening again with Salah and Mane. Nunez has a very good goal scoring record and will be interesting to see if he can bring it to the premier league and also deliver the high press and intensity that their front three has delivered over the last few seasons.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Liverpool go through fazes of bringing together a good group of players like they did in 2014 when they had the likes of Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho pushing for the league. Then they all vanish and they go backwards, it’s happening again with Salah and Mane. Nunez has a very good goal scoring record and will be interesting to see if he can bring it to the premier league and also deliver the high press and intensity that their front three has delivered over the last few seasons.
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For one season.
Not saying he won't be a great buy for Liverpool but he's only done it for one season thus far
 
Ted_Bovis said:
Silly question here perhaps - but have they always been like this and we are just paying more attention to them now since they appear to he our main threat or has their media love in and all the crap they spout gotten worse.

Is our success connected to their increased bullshit rhetoric?
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I think like a lot of things, the internet/social media has given the utter freaks of society a platform to be heard.

Most match going fans you meet on holiday etc are usually ok. U can hold a convo with even the most deluded of supporters.

But get into a ‘conversation’ with an online fan who lives hundreds of miles from the team they support, never go and get there info and opinions from other onlines weirdos and you get a superweirdo. Liverpool seem to suffer more than any other team with this as the online out of towners really buy into the cult of liverpool fc.

I guess when we were shit liverpool were kind of ‘your enemies enemy is your friend’. They havent dealt with our success well.

Cunts
 
bluemoon32 said:
For one season.
Not saying he won't be a great buy for Liverpool but he's only done it for one season thus far
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That’s the big unknown and variable as no transfer is ever guaranteed to work out. Mane is a big part of how the play offensively and also the press to get the ball back. He seemed to score against us for fun, I’m glad to see the back of him.
 
Liverpool could go into the 23/24 season a year from now without Mane, Salah and Firmino. The front 3 which their “greatest team” was built on for so long.

Next season will be their last as an elite challenger unless new and future signings somehow turn out to be as good as that line up was for them. You’d have to say the odds of that happening aren’t in their favour.

Not only that but as the Nunez signing has shown they won’t be able to get the likes of a Salah or Mane for £30m anymore. The value from these types of players, even when purchased from smaller clubs, has shot straight up.

Klopp cracking up 18 months from now.
 
HelloCity said:
Liverpool could go into the 23/24 season a year from now without Mane, Salah and Firmino. The front 3 which their “greatest team” was built on for so long.

Next season will be their last as an elite challenger unless new and future signings somehow turn out to be as good as that line up was for them. You’d have to say the odds of that happening aren’t in their favour.

Not only that but as the Nunez signing has shown they won’t be able to get the likes of a Salah or Mane for £30m anymore. The value from these types of players, even when purchased from smaller clubs, has shot straight up.

Klopp cracking up 18 months from now.
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They will have to recruit for the likes of Van Dyjk, Henderson, Fabinho who are no spring chickens anymore. They’ve made mistakes letting a lot of that squad age at the same time and replacing them will take some manoeuvring in the transfer market.

We ended up with not one full back under the age of 30 when Pep took the reigns and it cost a lot to put it right. I can see them with the same problems.
 
HelloCity said:
Liverpool could go into the 23/24 season a year from now without Mane, Salah and Firmino. The front 3 which their “greatest team” was built on for so long.

Next season will be their last as an elite challenger unless new and future signings somehow turn out to be as good as that line up was for them. You’d have to say the odds of that happening aren’t in their favour.

Not only that but as the Nunez signing has shown they won’t be able to get the likes of a Salah or Mane for £30m anymore. The value from these types of players, even when purchased from smaller clubs, has shot straight up.

Klopp cracking up 18 months from now.
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Firmino has not delivered for years now.
Easily the most overrated player going.
 
HelloCity said:
Liverpool could go into the 23/24 season a year from now without Mane, Salah and Firmino. The front 3 which their “greatest team” was built on for so long.

Next season will be their last as an elite challenger unless new and future signings somehow turn out to be as good as that line up was for them. You’d have to say the odds of that happening aren’t in their favour.

Not only that but as the Nunez signing has shown they won’t be able to get the likes of a Salah or Mane for £30m anymore. The value from these types of players, even when purchased from smaller clubs, has shot straight up.

Klopp cracking up 18 months from now.
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Can't see them going anywhere under Klopp, but do think they won't be as good as they have been

They need a bit of an overhaul but they do normally get it right in the market

But they are going to have to spend a lot more money than they've done in the past to get it done

Done a comparison between both clubs, age wise and contracts expiring per year its pretty samey...advance us is that were more likely to spend money and not stand still then they will

Gk: Even
29 - Allison vs Ederson - 28
23 - Kellegher vs Steffan - 27

FB: Walker is the outlier here
23 - Trent Arnold vs Walker - 31
25 - Joe Gomes vs Cucurella* - 23
28 - Robertson vs Cancelo - 28
26 - Tmiskas vs Zinchenko - 25

CB: we have the slight edge
30 - VVD vs Stones - 28
30 - Matip vs Laporte - 28
23 - Konate vs Dias - 25 (Ake - 27)

CM: we have the clear edge
32 - Henderson vs Gundogan 31
31 - Thaigo vs KDB - 30
28 - Fabinho vs Rodri - 25
28 - Keita vs Bernardo - 27
28 - Oxlade-chamberlaim vs Phillips - 26
21- Jones vs Palmer 20
36 - Milner

ATT: We have the slight edge
30 - Salah vs Sterling - 27
22 - Nunes vs Haaland - 21
25 - Dias vs Foden - 21
25 - Jota vs Grealish - 26
30 - Firmino vs mahrez - 31 (Alvarez - 22)

There isn't much in it, they have some good youth players as do we

Now contracts

Expire 23
Salah, Mane, Firmino, Keita vs Sterling, Jesus, Mahrez, Gundogan = pretty even, Mane/Salah>Jesus/Sterling but Mahrez/Gundo>Firminio Keita

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Foden, Rodri, Walker, Zinch vs Thaigo, Matip, Gomez, Minimino = Ours are FAR more pressing but due to ages Foden/Rodri extensions are inevitable. Then it's clear advantage us, will Liveprool offer extensions go Matip/Thiago who will be 32? They will need replacing as would Walker for us

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KDB, Bernardo, Laporte, Ake, Steffan vs TAA, Jota, VVD, Jones, Tsimikas, Henderson = more pressing for us. You'd imagine TAA, Jota and Tsimikas will have their contracts renewed as they are of the right age profile. Whereas we are unlikely to have Bernardo, KDB will be 33 and Laporte 31 who has been linked away. Obviously Henderson will be faced out for them but VVD will still be a big loss

Moral of the story, they won't be going anywhere too far while Klopp is there.....and that I have too much time on my hands on a Sunday during off-season
 
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