Do you support the RMT?

WestGorton said:
The car industry was ruined by poor product.
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Brought on by...a very inefficient workforce who would not allow changes to technology and new working practices to be be brought in.
We even had the nickname the Friday Afternoon car.
 
halfmist said:
Brought on by...a very inefficient workforce who would not allow changes to technology and working practices to be be brought on.
We even had the nickname the Friday Afternoon car.
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Nissan. Sunderland. Most efficient car factory in the world. It was poor management.
 
halfmist said:
You know sweet FA about me but your happy to jump to conclusions
See my earlier posts.
I have put things on the line in the past to try and protect other people’s livelihoods
One thing I can guarantee is, it’s nothing you would have ever done or ever be prepared to do .
So by taking those risks, falling on my arse starting again and coming good please forgive me for not volunteering to give it all away.
You reap what you sow as the saying goes
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Not that you’d make assumptions about, me, anyone else or any politician.

You've been burnt by the system and are now a living scarred relic of that, by the look of your posts.

You don’t give a shit about anyone but yourself is how you come across.
 
halfmist said:
You know sweet FA about me but your happy to jump to conclusions
See my earlier posts.
I have put things on the line in the past to try and protect other people’s livelihoods
One thing I can guarantee is, it’s nothing you would have ever done or ever be prepared to do .
So by taking those risks, falling on my arse starting again and coming good please forgive me for not volunteering to give it all away.
You reap what you sow as the saying goes
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What makes you think everyone who disagrees with you is a lefty? It seems to me that people don’t agree with you because you come across as a selfish **** not because of any political differences.
 
WestGorton said:
Nissan. Sunderland. Most efficient car factory in the world. It was poor management.
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Bad example you have chosen there. From memory, all the deals were done with the Unions before Nissan were prepared to sign along the dotted line to avoid all the nonsense in earlier disputes
The Unions had learned from past mistakes and embraced modern technology.
Hence it is highly efficient and a good example of how an industry should be run
The unions there have now realised we are governed by international competition and Nissan could have built their factories anywhere in the world
 
metalblue said:
Plenty where I live. Long gone are the days of kids having to go to their local state school like I did. I’d also add that when the bedroom tax or whatever it was called was being proposed the left where up in arms because of the handful of husbands and wives who had separate bedrooms due to disabilities. The very reason the left oppose policies is always down to the outlying people it impacts, never the majority. The hypocrisy is a bit sickening.
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That's a stretch. Convoluted nonsense.
 
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halfmist said:
Bad example you have chosen there. From memory, all the deals were done with the Unions before Nissan were prepared to sign along the dotted line to avoid all the nonsense in earlier disputes
The Unions had learned from past mistakes and embraced modern technology.
Hence it is highly efficient and a good example of how an industry should be run
The unions there have now realised we are governed by international competition and Nissan could have built their factories anywhere in the world
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Agreed pal. It is a modern industrial example.
 
WestGorton said:
Poor management. Glad you agree.
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Not when BMW took over, if was staff culture, resistance to change, which in an industry where you need continuous improvement doesn't work.

BAe didn't have a clue how to make cars, but BMW were not bad.
 
WestGorton said:
The car industry was ruined by poor product.
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and by a management who failed to invest in R&D and just assumed everyone would just buy British - they repeated the same mistake the British motorcycle industry did a decade before its just that because there was no industrial action people just gloss over that
 
Corky said:
Not when BMW took over, if was staff culture, resistance to change, which in an industry where you need continuous improvement doesn't work.

BAe didn't have a clue how to make cars, but BMW were not bad.
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BAE didn't want to make cars - they were "persuaded" to by the Govt - my Dad was at BAE and the tales he has told me.............
 
100% behind them. I have been a union member ally my working life, it’s everyone’s right to withdraw their labour.

I am a Civil Servant, got promoted 7 years ago. Got a pay rise last year for the first time at my management grade for the first time.
Sick to death of all the middle management shite and downgraded last month.
My new salary is less than what I was on before promotion and there’s a pay freeze in place for this year.
My mortgage is paid off my wife’s just been promoted. I can take the hit and can take the cost of living spiral on the chin I am lucky.
 
bluethrunthru said:
and by a management who failed to invest in R&D and just assumed everyone would just buy British - they repeated the same mistake the British motorcycle industry did a decade before its just that because there was no industrial action people just gloss over that
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Management in the seventies was appalling. It was on the bowling green rather than leading. Upper class twits many if them who could not communicate or gather team spirit. Relied on working class promotion above their union colleagues to do the dirty work
 
west didsblue said:
What makes you think everyone who disagrees with you is a lefty? It seems to me that people don’t agree with you because you come across as a selfish **** not because of any political differences.
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Your just coming across as very bitter.
I don’t need to call you a **** because I am sure in real life your probably not.
To be honest, I don’t really give a shit about what you really think about me because, not on a wealth basis, but, intellectually, ideologically or socially, I think we can safely say our paths are very unlikely to cross.
 
horlock_was_super said:
100% behind them. I have been a union member ally my working life, it’s everyone’s right to withdraw their labour.

I am a Civil Servant, got promoted 7 years ago. Got a pay rise last year for the first time at my management grade for the first time.
Sick to death of all the middle management shite and downgraded last month.
My new salary is less than what I was on before promotion and there’s a pay freeze in place for this year.
My mortgage is paid off my wife’s just been promoted. I can take the hit and can take the cost of living spiral on the chin I am lucky.
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Some fair points there Horlock. I can see why you would be a bit miffed with your circumstances. But your content to say your lucky instead of bitter, many wouldn’t see it that way
 
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