On what basis are you saying wages are excessive? Someone on £80k in a railway control room is likely to be held accountable for the safety of thousands of passengers unlike a co-pilot on any aircraft where the captain is the accountable person and is on about £115k on average according to the web. So £80k doesn’t seem unreasonable for having that responsibility.Nope, other than I heard what the basic starting pay on one of those “come fly with us”type docu soaps they did.
My basic point is in the private sector the market dictates pay, like it or lump it
As regards the public sector, the Railways get public subsidies.
In other words tax Payers, not customers, on nothing like that amount of money, are having to pay for these excessive wages out of their taxes
If the railways relied on customer funding only and made a profit good luck to the staff.
Not sure if you’re on a wind-up or are the perfect person for this type of government.Nope, other than I heard what the basic starting pay on one of those “come fly with us”type docu soaps they did.
My basic point is in the private sector the market dictates pay, like it or lump it
As regards the public sector, the Railways get public subsidies.
In other words tax Payers, not customers, on nothing like that amount of money, are having to pay for these excessive wages out of their taxes
If the railways relied on customer funding only and made a profit good luck to the staff.
The Unions are the biggest threat to anyone “getting on” as you call it through the use of collective bargaining.Not sure if you’re on a wind-up or are the perfect person for this type of government.
You do understand that tax payers subsidise loads of stuff in order to allow the rich capitalist owners to take their cut as well as those who have shares. The biggest con is that we subsidise the low paid with tax credits so the very rich don’t have to.
What you’re saying is that anybody in public service should not aspire to get to the top and work towards a future. In other words, ’Know your place and don’t even think about taking mine’.
Hope you enjoy that pedestal you’ve plonked yourself on.
As an executive in a large private sector company I can say that’s a load of bollocks. The staff are represented by a union and benefit from collective bargaining and as a result they always get a bigger pay increase than middle management who just get what they’re given, and see their pay differential erode annually.The Unions are the biggest threat to anyone “getting on” as you call it through the use of collective bargains.
What is the incentive for any Public Sector worker to go that extra mile when everyone else around them isny
Ends up most drop down to the same level.
Talking shite, mate.The Unions are the biggest threat to anyone “getting on” as you call it through the use of collective bargaining.
What is the incentive for any Public Sector worker to go that extra mile when everyone else around them cant be arsed as it doesn’t affect their prospects.
Ends up most drop down to the same level.
The reason I ask is because EasyJet is a budget operator. Therefore almost certainly a co-pilot for that airline is probably an entry-level job. What is the average pilot earning 10 years into their career?Nope, other than I heard what the basic starting pay on one of those “come fly with us”type docu soaps they did.
My basic point is in the private sector the market dictates pay, like it or lump it
As regards the public sector, the Railways get public subsidies.
In other words tax Payers, not customers, on nothing like that amount of money, are having to pay for these excessive wages out of their taxes
If the railways relied on customer funding only and made a profit good luck to the staff.
Which kids travel to school by train that aren't in private ones?
They are the only ones I have experience of and they got different rules during COVID. As we ran special trains for Tarquin to his private school in Lincolnshire from Nottingham whilst cutting essential workers services to get them to their shifts.
The government (Schapps) have politicised the strike. I've spoke to directors of TOCs in my union roles who have told me they've asked the DFT to be allowed to sort the dispute and they are being ignored as well.
I don't want to strike but it's a last resort.
Station staff replaced by agency staff who are there purely for customer service at "Network Rail Hub stations only" who will be the only stations with manned booking offices. Other stations, for example Stockport/Occy Road will be expected to be fully automated. Right down to safe dispatch of trains.
Potters Bar, Hadfield, Grayrigg. Three rail disasters that could have been averted if private owned infrastructure company had done its job at the time. The tories seem to have forgotten this and want to increase subcontracting maintenance projects away from Networks rail responsibility.
We're fighting to protect jobs and safety of all passengers that use the network. The DFT think putting everything on an app is the best for the public. What they really mean is creaming off profits to the management contractors who will run the "nationalised" Great British Railway.
Striking is always the last resort. Lay members understand why it's been called and support it.
Personally I'm hoping, albeit naïvely that we will have made our point this week and negotiations will begin in earnest after.
Visit Greenbank Station any day around at school times platform is crowed with school kidsI’ve no issue with the strike action itself. That’s for members to decide. Should have been done after exams.
I don’t like your assumption that only private school kids go on train. That’s not only bollocks it’s also a little bit snide.
Drivers are not striking, and if the guards are in the RMT and the union has a majority vote for strike action then whether they are affected or not any RMT memebers regardless of position or pay ahould not cross a picket line.I always thought the railways are really well payed jobs i know drivers are on about40-60k depending on who they work for and tickets please pays about 30k, i have put unsure as im not sure who the low paid people are or what they earn