Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

bluekeith said:
The cable is a ring cut it anywhere and the whole roof falls down
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Is it that much of a problem? They managed to expand the South Stand without the roof falling down. They could do exactly the same to the North Stand.

I suspect the the most we will see in the future is a ‘mirror image’ of the South Stand Third Tier on the North Stand.

Beyond that it would be very expensive to increase capacity with the issues of the roof.

It might be cheaper and less disruptive to build a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus. That’s what Arsenal and Spurs did.
 
JGL07 said:
Is it that much of a problem? They managed to expand the South Stand without the roof falling down. They could do exactly the same to the North Stand.

I suspect the the most we will see in the future is a ‘mirror image’ of the South Stand Third Tier on the North Stand.

Beyond that it would be very expensive to increase capacity with the issues of the roof.

It might be cheaper and less disruptive to build a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus. That’s what Arsenal and Spurs did.
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I haven't spotted the Arsenal and Spurs stadiums on the campus. I'll pay more attention next time I go.
 
JGL07 said:
Is it that much of a problem? They managed to expand the South Stand without the roof falling down. They could do exactly the same to the North Stand.

I suspect the the most we will see in the future is a ‘mirror image’ of the South Stand Third Tier on the North Stand.

Beyond that it would be very expensive to increase capacity with the issues of the roof.

It might be cheaper and less disruptive to build a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus. That’s what Arsenal and Spurs did.
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Maybe they will take the opportunity to replace the whole roof if the cable net is only there for the East and West stand roofs. Longer term that would allow the 3rd tiers of the East and West stands to eventually be dismantled and replaced with enlarged steeper stands that blend in with the North and South stands. Whether that's actually feasible I have no idea.
 
wolfie1988 said:
The wire and support poles were already fitted pre games

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You look at that & think what a great job we did converting it for football, West Ham seem to be getting there with theirs, but for the life of me I can’t understand why Birmingham City haven’t got on board with the commonwealth stadium there, St Andrews is a dump
 
A single tier is possible if it is built at the exact same angle as the south stand third tier. This would mean the cable net would not be a problem as it would come through the top of the stand.

Look at the below image and imagine that third tier going all the way down to pitch level. That’s how it would be designed.

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west didsblue said:
Maybe they will take the opportunity to replace the whole roof if the cable net is only there for the East and West stand roofs. Longer term that would allow the 3rd tiers of the East and West stands to eventually be dismantled and replaced with enlarged steeper stands that blend in with the North and South stands. Whether that's actually feasible I have no idea.
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That was one of the original plans put forward I believe. The N, E & W roof segments themselves are past their sell by date (they really do have one).

This is from the skyscrapercity(?) website, apologies for whoever created/posted them, I can't find the original link.

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Jesus H Gabz said:
You look at that & think what a great job we did converting it for football, West Ham seem to be getting there with theirs, but for the life of me I can’t understand why Birmingham City haven’t got on board with the commonwealth stadium there, St Andrews is a dump
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The athletics stadium has always been there it is just being revamped, and it is very close to Villa Park, and will remain there for all types of meets.
 
Corky said:
The athletics stadium has always been there it is just being revamped, and it is very close to Villa Park, and will remain there for all types of meets.
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Oh I know, my daughter competed at English schools there a few times, like you say logistically it’s probably treading on the toes of Villa/WBA, but it seems a lost opportunity as they’ve built a warm up track next door & the facility will only have large crowds a handful of times a year, we where the template for what they could do going forward
 
Centurions said:
That was one of the original plans put forward I believe. The N, E & W roof segments themselves are past their sell by date (they really do have one).

This is from the skyscrapercity(?) website, apologies for whoever created/posted them, I can't find the original link.

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Looks like the final capacity if that happens would be around 75,000. Should be enough STs for anyone that wants!
 
JGL07 said:
Is it that much of a problem? They managed to expand the South Stand without the roof falling down. They could do exactly the same to the North Stand.

I suspect the the most we will see in the future is a ‘mirror image’ of the South Stand Third Tier on the North Stand.

Beyond that it would be very expensive to increase capacity with the issues of the roof.

It might be cheaper and less disruptive to build a complete new stadium elsewhere on the Campus. That’s what Arsenal and Spurs did.
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The Cablenet is still in place going through the new roof Its a pretension ring, primary component of the roof this design allows a light weight roof without any pillared support or cantilever.

More sense to build a new stadium than spend the money on putting another tier on the East and West stands The complication of adding the tier on the South stand meant it cost almost as much as the original structure
 
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Gordyola said:
The Cablenet is still in place going through the new roof Its a pretension ring is a primary component of the roof this design allows a light weight roof without any pillared support or cantilever.

More sense to build a new stadium than spend the money on putting another tier on the East and West stands The complication of adding the tier on the South stand meant is cost almost as much as the original structure
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We'd have to convince Sport England to allow us to do that though, they have the final say as they paid for it. They have knocked us back previously I believe.
 
Can't remember who posted it. I'm sure somebody did. City/CFG and OVG are investing in a fleet of elevtric buses for the Coop Live Arena. Can anyone confirm that's true or is it just my imagination? Thanks.
 
Centurions said:
We'd have to convince Sport England to allow us to do that though, they have the final say as they paid for it. They have knocked us back previously I believe.
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I’m suggesting that to add a tier to the E & W stands doesn’t make economic sense
 
wolfie1988 said:
I though the roof only had a limited lifecycle anyway? 25 years or something?
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Centurions said:
It does although I can't remember the exact number, I had the feeling we were over the sell by date already but it is only 20 years old since it opened for the commonwealth games (feels longer :( ).
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Pretty crazy to accept a tenancy where you are responsible for the maintenance of the stadium that has a life of 25years

I don’t understand why a roof would only last 25 years

http://www.getyourkitsout.com/designing the COMSTAD.pdf
 
jrb said:
Can't remember who posted it. I'm sure somebody did. City/CFG and OVG are investing in a fleet of elevtric buses for the Coop Live Arena. Can anyone confirm that's true or is it just my imagination? Thanks.
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It sounds a barmy idea to me.

What will this fleet of electric buses do when there are no concerts on?
 
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