It's Quiet 17 - Glory Thread

tolmie's hairdoo said:
That's fair enough. Sterling has been degrading in a City shirt and Ake is a fourth-choice centre-back.

Irrespective of their ages, perceived physical prime, my own (subjective) context is those players I did cite were key components and we still kept on winning.

Sterling and Ake are not, and they are replaceable.
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City have the choice of what to do if players like Sterling and Ake are sold. If they think they need to replace them to bolster the squad to challenge for everything, again, they will buy.
 
TonyM said:
If Ake goes I hope we bring in a very good RB rather than a CB.

Preferably a RB who can also be 4th choice CB along with Phillips, Walker, Rodri and the kids.

I know we struggled for CB last year but I'm afraid that at RB we could struggle even more if Walker gets injured (and he's getting old now... for a sports person that is).
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Cancelo if we bring in a left back, and if needed walker can play centre back. I'd rather get a centre back though.
 
Bill said:
agree in the main but losing Raz Gabby Fern Ake and possibly Bernie in one window is very risky. they are all multi title winners ffs. how do you top that .
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Multiple title winners yes, but they've also been key players when we've bottled the Champions league

No it's not like they've been individually responsible but they are part of the group that hasn't been able to grab the trophy we want the most

We've won 4 in 5 in the Prem....maybe a refresh and new characters could get us the champions league

It is a risk, but you can't buy new starters without letting a few go

Think Haaland seems the type to have that winners elite mentality that can be the difference in a Europe final/semi-final
 
Coatigan said:
For me if it is a choice of Palmer or another team's young promising player, I'd rather see Palmer get the backing.

Likewise if the choice is Neymar or such a costly 30+ year old temporary fill, I'd happily see Palmer given a proper go.

Anything inbetween, I'd rather see an established experienced first team player replace Sterling and Jesus combined, which is a heck of an ask.


I think expectations of Palmer are way too high, and people will be disappointed. Seen it so many times before, Delap, THB, Tosin, Denayer, Rekik, Diaz and loads more. Even Foden. In the sense that after a handful of bit part appearences people expected him to just start games suddenly and replace David, when in reality he had a couple more seasons of building up appearences.

Players don't just 'break through' like some imagine Palmer will. They edge their way quietly into the team. They also do ut surrounded by a fully functioning team of regulars, not with a huge void to fill and responsibility on them to match record numbers. Hope Palmer does in the long run work his way to a regular for us, and a damn good one. But won't be a case of the club just trusting him to step up from 4 cameo appearances last season to replacing 90m+ worth of players.
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He wouldn't be replacing Jesus and Sterling though. For me Haaland and Alvarez are. I know people will say thay are Aguero's and Torres' replacement but Aguero and Torres hardly hard starring roles in the 20/21 season, Aguero then obviously left and again Torres left halfway through last season having been injured from around October. So for me the new lads are not replacing them, but Sterling and Jesus instead.
As for Palmer I'm not expecting him to be a world beater off the bat and start 20-25 games, but with Haaland likely to be the main man that only leaves two spots on the right and left with tye likes of Foden, Grealish, alvarez, mahrez and even Bernardo capable of playing there. So if Palmer only played 10 league games and a few cup games he will have done well.
 
handsofstone said:
Multiple title winners yes, but they've also been key players when we've bottled the Champions league

No it's not like they've been individually responsible but they are part of the group that hasn't been able to grab the trophy we want the most

We've won 4 in 5 in the Prem....maybe a refresh and new characters could get us the champions league

It is a risk, but you can't buy new starters without letting a few go

Think Haaland seems the type to have that winners elite mentality that can be the difference in a Europe final/semi-final
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Bottled the Champions league?

Yeah ok mate.

You sound like that prick Chris Sutton.
 
Turner92 said:
If Ake does go who do we bring in as 4th choice cb?
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There have been a few links throughout the year, of CBs we were supposedly keeping an eye on should Laporte wish to leave. I imagine one of those would still be on the club's radar. The likes of Lissandro Martinez etc, can't remember them all, but I'm sure a few have been scouted for long term interest.

It still blows my mind when people suggest Ake won't be replaced, and we'd go into the season with 3 CBs. More than it does when they suggest Sterling won't be replaced.
 
samuelyeboah said:
been hearing for weeks now that "an agreement with chelsea is close" in the media when are they gonna stop being cheapskates and pay up? time's ticking
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Indeed. Surely all 3 parties woul want it done before we head out on tour.
 
Coatigan said:
There have been a few links throughout the year, of CBs we were supposedly keeping an eye on should Laporte wish to leave. I imagine one of those would still be on the club's radar. The likes of Lissandro Martinez etc, can't remember them all, but I'm sure a few have been scouted for long term interest.

It still blows my mind when people suggest Ake won't be replaced, and we'd go into the season with 3 CBs. More than it does when they suggest Sterling won't be replaced.
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Wonder if Zagadou is an option, i know we scouted him a season or so ago. Hes out of contract after leaving Dortmund, 27 left footed.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Chelsea doing us a favour as far as I can see.

Nobody else has come forward this summer wanting to take Sterling off our hands, solving an issue we were previously resigned to.

Ake, while a popular member of the squad, is still only a fourth-choice back up, nothing which marks him out as being able to dislodge Laporte or Dias.

Getting £50m plus for him would be excellent business and we have to accept he will be feeling the pressure in a World Cup year and has an affinity for Chelsea.

Understandably, many Blues fear losing decent players eventually means the trophy train will hit the buffers, but we are long past that stage, as a club.

That's what happens when the culture is changed by people like Mancini, Pellegrini and certainly, Pep.

We have seen Vinny, Zabba, Dave, Sergio, Toure and Fern, all degrade and eventually leave us.

We keep on winning. There are new players to be made heroes of.

Selling Sterling and Ake should not be accompanied with a careful what we wish for, but another opportunity for Pep and City to take the team forward again.
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I agree with what your saying but this could be Citys biggest squad change in one summer since Pep arrived & could initially be a backward step.
It always seems to take new players a season to bed in & understand Pep's system.
Let's not open the door too wide & let Liverpool in.
 
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SterlingSilvas said:
Wonder if Zagadou is an option, i know we scouted him a season or so ago. Hes out of contract after leaving Dortmund, 27 left footed.
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I like Zagadou , very good ball-playing defender , composed on the ball. He is very tall too so is an aerial threat and also helps against defending against target men. I think he would be a good replacement.
 
manimanc said:
Bottled the Champions league?

Yeah ok mate.

You sound like that prick Chris Sutton.
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They've only won four out of five league titles. Just bin them off and throw money at new players who will definitely win us a Champions League.

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waspish said:
No just think he is half decent experience 32 year old city fan on a free fourth choice would be could be an option
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I'm a 0.00001% decent 56 year old city fan and i'd actually be prepared to slip the club a tenner if i could be 4th choice CB. I'm not too mobile but it would take most players quite some time to run around me. Could i be an option?
 
Koulibaly would be a good option 1 year left on his deal, 31 years of age been
priced at 45 mil, But would we deal with Napoli.
 
Blue Coop said:
Since the rumour I’ve always held the view that if you can get £50M+ for a 4th choice CB who has played 1700 PL minutes in 2 years, half of those at Left Back, then we would be silly not to take that deal.

I do think we need to react accordingly, but my reaction would be to reinvest that money into an actual Left Back and bring in somebody cheaper at CB who, as you say, can fill in for 10-15 games a year across league and cup games to do a job. We’ll get much more value out of a £50M player at left back than we will on the bench for 80% of the season.
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not disagreeing but it just occurred to me that if our 4th choice CB is truly worth 50m, where in the world do we get a 50m rated quality CB prepared to be 4th choice from? unless we're prepared to have a lesser 4th choice CB.
 
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