Marc Cucurella

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Coatigan said:
He loses them anyway, if he leaves and they sell him without a transfer request. If he has already had the first installment paid, which is likely as it is the end of july, he might not lose anything at all.
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If Brighton sell him without a transfer request, he will still be due all loyalty payments mate. Most loyalty payments are for a none break of the contract.
 
crazyg said:
Fatty Shaw is coming as well?
I never expected that!
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we're gonna need a bigger canteen
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Metal Biker said:
I know who my favourites for relegation are! (Then again, they always have been since the 'clogging' incident)
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Nothing to do with the Cucurella transfer, but I have never really understood that game.

I have never seen Potter or Brighton as a manager/team that resorted to the tactics experienced in that game.

The referee ( sorry can't remember who the bent **** was, Atwell maybe ) was totally compliant and biased towards them and their tactics in what was a blatantly biased performance .

Very strange considering there was nothing of great consequence for the Brighton team , and Potter's behaviour and demeanour was very uncharacteristic.

Anyway carry on with the transfer speculation shit ;)-
 
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urban genie said:
I expect your last line is tongue in cheek, but that is what rags used to say in the 90s when they went for any player in a team below them the bigger teams should be able to take lesser teams talent at a whim.

We are the best the in the land but if a team doesn't want to sell then we move on, tbh it has served us well the few times of doing that.

A transfer request is last resort, if still turned down then we should let that player know we will walk so they don't act out and agents who brief the clubs and media are cunts too.


If we were in brightons position we wouldn't like it as fans.
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Yes the last line wasn't important.

You didn't really respond to the rest.

For instance Ronaldo hasn't put in a transfer request. Imo I would say it would be more respectful to do so and not receive his bonuses than to act the way he has.
There are many other instances of this type of action. My argument was that by foregoing his bonuses , being honest and open Cucurella is not acting in an immoral manner.

Only if Mcfc were trying to get him on the cheap aka Barcelonas current methods would I deem club behaviour immoral.

Brighton are well within their rights to say no. No transfer at any price. That would end City interest immediately.
 
asahartford1 said:
Yes the last line wasn't important.

You didn't really respond to the rest.

For instance Ronaldo hasn't put in a transfer request. Imo I would say it would be more respectful to do so and not receive his bonuses than to act the way he has.
There are many other instances of this type of action. My argument was that by foregoing his bonuses , being honest and open Cucurella is not acting in an immoral manner.

Only if Mcfc were trying to get him on the cheap aka Barcelonas current methods would I deem club behaviour immoral.

Brighton are well within their rights to say no. No transfer at any price. That would end City interest immediately.
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I said a transfer request was a last resort, I am not a fan of them but get why a player uses them.

It is if he goes any further I think we should walk.

Also I don't think we should expect him to come because brighton should know their status as some blues (not yourself or necessararly on BM) have sugested.

If we don't agree a price then so be it, tbf I am indifferent to it all, if he comes fair enough, if he doesn't I won't lose any sleep
 
JewelZee said:
I get what you're saying. From what I understand he's one of these guys who talks to agents, club members and such and then passes along the information. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do what he does, but it does take reliable contacts who are willing to share info with you.

I don't know if you follow the NFL or NBA, but he's like a European football version of Adam Schefter, Ian Rapoport, or Adrian Wojnarowski.
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All good man, thankyou.

Edit; thinking about that somemore i wonder why people would share information with someone who has no business interest with the club, player or agents. I.e. what would be in it for them?
 
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urban genie said:
I said a transfer request was a last resort, I am not a fan of them but get why a player uses them.

It is if he goes any further I think we should walk.

Also I don't think we should expect him to come because brighton should know their status as some blues (not yourself or necessararly on BM) have sugested.

If we don't agree a price then so be it, tbf I am indifferent to it all, if he comes fair enough, if he doesn't I won't lose any sleep
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If you take in to account that Cucca has probably sacrificed about £4m to hand in his transfer request, you would think that would reaffirm his ambitions to play at the top level. Some players sit in for the money some do it for their game.
 
chaddblue said:
I reckon that he’s had assurances from city that we’ll make it happen, for him to make this pretty drastic move
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I mean we could potentially walk away if the deal is still unreasonable. Are City is going to try again for next transfer windows opportunites as somekind assurances for him and repay his effort to put his transfer request?
 
Corky said:
He gets them paid up if the club want to sell him without a request, 4 more years' worth.
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Does he get 4 years worth of wages while we also pay him wages for playing for us? What are you on about, if we sign him, we have bought him out of his contract, Brighton have nothing left to pay him. Not in bonuses wages or anything else.
 
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Coatigan said:
No he won't. His contract comes to an end. Loyalty payments are part of seeing his contract through.
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When you sign a contract, the loyalty bonuses are spread across the contract. If Brighton sell him without his says so, he is due the loyalty payments from the full contract. He has probably taken about £4m off the transfer fee by handing in the request. I would say that says a lot about the player.
 
Coatigan said:
No he won't. His contract comes to an end. Loyalty payments are part of seeing his contract through.
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Not quite, if he’s sold within his contract and not seen to contest it, all agreed bonuses are payable, it’s exactly why it’s the last resort, see Fernandinho for example, he wavered his to support the offer from city; although not putting the request in, and undoubtedly showing a class above, those margins needed to be made up!
 
Coatigan said:
Does he get 4 teara worth of wages while we also pay him wages for playing for us? What are you on about, if we sign him, we have bought him out of his contract, Brighton have nothing left to pay him. Not in bonuses wages or anything else.
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It’s that mad mate.
 
lee one pen said:
When you sign a contract, the loyalty bonuses are spread across the contract. If Brighton sell him without his says so, he is due the loyalty payments from the full contract. He has probably taken about £4m off the transfer fee by handing in the request. I would say that says a lot about the player.
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Brighton can't sell him without his say so.

They also can't pay him if he plays for someone else. When he leaves, he his no longer their player, he gets nothing more from them.

At most, he will lose one year's bonuses. Assuming he hasn't already been paid them, which reportedly happens in July so chances are he has, and is losing nothing at all.
 
Coatigan said:
Brighton can't sell him without his say so.

They also can't pay him if he plays for someone else. When he leaves, he his no longer their player, he gets nothing more from them.

At most, he will lose one year's bonuses. Assuming he hasn't already been paid them, which reportedly happens in July so chances are he has, and is losing nothing at all.
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Players are moved on all the time mate. If you sit tight and the club gets say £50m, they will pay the player his loyalty Bonuses out of that fee. He has sacrificed his bonuses to make the deal more attractive to Brighton. I know it’s sounds crazy but this is football mate, they don’t live in the real world.
 
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