Marc Cucurella

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Keeper! said:
He would be in the Ukraine team even with him sitting on our bench, so that's irrelevant.

I understand he wants to be playing week in week out, so he should, he is too good to be getting splinters, but he leaves when it suits us, IE when a replacement is in.
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It makes zero difference. Brighton were hardly going to drop the fee by £10 million just because we still had Zinchenko on our books.

The lad was offered a huge wage increase and the opportunity for regular football at a top 6 club. He’s been an excellent player for us and I’m glad City didn’t stand in his way or make things difficult for him.

The only reason we haven’t signed Cucurella is due to City’s valuation of him. The club obviously have the cash, value the player and need a LB. But they have decided not to meet Brighton’s asking price.

Personally, I don’t think this deal has fallen through over a £50 million fee. After all, £18 million + the Zinchenko fee is not a ridiculous sum for a clear upgrade at LB.

However, I think Brighton are demanding a lot more than £50 million. I would not be surprised in the slightest if Chelsea pay £40/45 million plus a young player valued at £20/15 million for Cucurella, which would take the overall fee up to £60 million.
 
stonerblue said:
No. What happens is people with no real info bang on as if they know for sure what's going on by pretending they have a 'source'. When pulled up on this they flounce around and spit their dummies out.
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We have seen many times when people do have the sources deals still fall through and they get castigated for this. I am not talking about WUMs, only those that have proved credibility previously
 
Keeper! said:
We are incredibly well run but this deal and the Kane situation last year makes me think sometimes we do some very strange things.

Do you think we always get it right? And we never make errors?
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It's impossible to get things right every time. Absolutely impossible. Mistakes don't licence daft exaggerations, though.

I guess, we hope things may be done if the player is desperate to leave. Kane went on strike for a week or two, Cucu put in a transfer request. We didn't succeed with Kane, but I doubt many regret it, given we've signed Haaland. Maybe it's better to have a giant talent like Haaland than Kane at 28 y.o.? Maybe we'll find a very useful LB now, who knows?
 
daztrueblue91 said:
It makes zero difference. Brighton were hardly going to drop the fee by £10 million just because we still had Zinchenko on our books.

The lad was offered a huge wage increase and the opportunity for regular football at a top 6 club. He’s been an excellent player for us and I’m glad City didn’t stand in his way or make things difficult for him.

The only reason we haven’t signed Cucurella is due to City’s valuation of him. The club obviously have the cash, value the player and need a LB. But they have decided not to meet Brighton’s asking price.

Personally, I don’t think this deal has fallen through over a £50 million fee. After all, £18 million + the Zinchenko fee is not a ridiculous sum for a clear upgrade at LB.

However, I think Brighton are demanding a lot more than £50 million. I would not be surprised in the slightest if Chelsea pay £40/45 million plus a young player valued at £20/15 million for Cucurella, which would take the overall fee up to £60 million.
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Obviously it would not affect Brighton, I don't give two shits about Brighton but I care when the season starts we have 2 FB's available.

And the 'lad" was under contract , he is free to leave but when it suits ourselves and not before, just like in the Bernardo situation.
 
People saying bcos we signed Haaland Txixi can't be criticised.

By not signing a decent Leftback the good work of getting one of the best young talents in the world will soon become undone. We will get found out later in the season when we've got a game every 3 days and we dont have the squad to compete.
 
Blue Eyed Dick said:
How football works......
Brighton value Cucurella at £50M.
We don't think he is worth £50M and will not pay it.
Another team thinks he is worth £50M and are willing to pay it.
Therefore, Brighton are right. Cucurella's value is £50M!
It's not rocket science. It's a market - demand/supply/price

Taking some moral high ground doesn't gain us anything - doesn't get us the target player that Pep wants.
After letting Sterling go to Chelsea, this feels like gifting them another top class player.
Our club is trying to raise its profile positively on the world stage. This sort of approach, like last summer with Kane, risks making us look like amateurs.
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Excellent post..Just do not understand this situation at all.. it makes no sense..Raheem gone ,Jesus gone, Zin gone..squabbling over a relatively small sum... do not understand it at all..but after Stoke, beating the rags in the semi..never dreamed of how far we have come...support City.. CTID.
 
bluemoon32 said:
Yeah, i think we really wanted this kid.
Seems weird we're worrying about 5-10m if that's what it is, when you think how much we've paid/wasted on some other players
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There is that. It’s a bit baffling that we seem prepared to pay more than some players are ‘worth’ (I know that’s subjective) but won’t go the extra mile for others. I can understand clubs trying it on, we can’t pretend Grealish didn’t happen. You can tell we’re in final offer mode for this player. You can only assume he isn’t as important to the management as the fans.
 
Keeper! said:
Obviously it would not affect Brighton, I don't give two shits about Brighton but I care when the season starts we have 2 FB's available
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I agree that we need to sign a LB but we got until the transfer window closes to do so.

Walker and Cancelo are still two of the best FBs in the league and would probably be starting the first few games regardless of whether a new LB joined.

For me the big issue at FB arises when we need to rest/rotate players. Luckily for us, we probably won’t need to do that until after the transfer window closes and the issue will probably be resolved by then.
 
SSL2 said:
People saying bcos we signed Haaland Txixi can't be criticised.

By not signing a decent Leftback the good work of getting one of the best young talents in the world will soon become undone. We will get found out later in the season when we've got a game every 3 days and we dont have the squad to compete.
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Because from the club point of view they are not that desperate looking for LB like some fans speculate in here, there's player that will look have some minute as LB like Ake, Laporte, maybe Philips? and lastly our young player Josh Wilson Esbrand can share those responsibility. We are not dire yet at this point of season.
 
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