Keir Starmer

[Bigga]

Chilling on the beach ...

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I know he's stiff, but that's quite a snazzy bathing suit for him...

 

[Postman Pep]

I know he's stiff, but that's quite a snazzy bathing suit for him...

That's just Keith surveying the scene on arrival .....

 

[urban genie]

The man has gone awol, not a peep while the country goes to shit

 

[bluethrunthru]

The man has gone awol, not a peep while the country goes to shit

what do you think he can do?

 

[urban genie]

what do you think he can do?

Have an opinion at least

 

[west didsblue]

what do you think he can do?

Exactly. He’s there to hold the government to account and Parliament isn’t sitting. The best he can do is get front and central in the media but in reality what’s the point when we’re so far from an election and any points that register with the electorate will be long forgotten within a week. Not sure what people expect him to do.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Exactly. He’s there to hold the government to account and Parliament isn’t sitting. The best he can do is get front and central in the media but in reality what’s the point when we’re so far from an election and any points that register with the electorate will be long forgotten within a week. Not sure what people expect him to do.

Any half decent idea will be stolen by the Tories too.

 

[west didsblue]

Any half decent idea will be stolen by the Tories too.

Yep. They’ve got form for that.

 

[Postman Pep]

So basically he has the answers but doesn't want to give them away because the Tories might claim the credit?

We did have loads of ideas to alleviate the financial pain for millions of people during a cost of living crisis.... but at the end of the day it just wasn't the right time during the electoral cycle....

 

[Bigga]

LOL!!

So, let me get this right... In a time of crisis and upcoming crisis, the leader of the opposition should just keep schtum offering no words of support, understanding and sympathy because 'that'll be forgotten in a week'.

The thought process behind this thinking is frightening.

 

[urban genie]

In 1974 parliament was recalled automatically to deal with the energy crisis at the request of both leaders.

If one cannot be arsed while he has a mini end on PM reign jolly, the least the opposition leader can do is demand a recall to sort out the shitshow that is fastly coming to the people in the winter.

Not sit on his hands because there is no political gain or electioneering to be done, they are servants of the people after all.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Have an opinion at least

you mean like he did in Dec?

Keir Starmer accuses government of failing to prevent ‘winter cost of living crisis’

‘Government’s failure to secure our gas storage has undermined our energy security,’ Sir Keir says

www.independent.co.uk

and March

Keir Starmer says PM’s ‘failed energy policy’ is causing bills to rocket

Labour leader calls for investment in nuclear, renewables and insulation to cut reliance on Russian oil and gas

www.theguardian.com

I am not a fan of his - he is on holiday like Johnson too and thus failing BUT we are mid-term and in reality his fight is not with the Tories its with the r/w press who misreport and misdirect away from the Tories and Labour struggle to get some bandwidth. Labour needs to stop in-fighting and concentrating its time effort and resources on getting a GE campaign together. I'd prefer a new leader but at the moment that is not to be - however again with a new leader in mind its hard for Starmer and Labour to attack when they don't know who to attack yet

 

[Bigga]

How about attacking the Tory gov in charge?

Are they not still functioning or does being on jollies call truce on things?

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

Yep. They’ve got form for that.

Not fundamenta. Reform of the system and dismantling the free market butchering of all we hold dear.
Can't see the Tories nicking that

 

[bluethrunthru]

In 1974 parliament was recalled automatically to deal with rhe energy crisis at the request of both leaders.

If one cannot be arsed while he has a mini end on PM reign jolly, the least the opposition leader can do is demand a recall to sort out the shitshow that is fastly coming to the people in the winter.

Not sit on his hands because there is no political gain or electioneering to be done, they are servants of the people after all.

yeah mate 3 days ago Labour were calling for an emergency budget to address the cost of living crisis and got nowhere because the Tories have a huge majority - if you think thats sitting on their hands then thats up to you but I see it as you not keeping up.

No 10’s refusal of emergency budget shows Tories have lost control of economy, says Labour – as it happened

Opposition criticises decision not to make big fiscal interventions in final weeks of Boris Johnson’s premiership

www.theguardian.com

 

[Postman Pep]

you mean like he did in Dec?

Keir Starmer accuses government of failing to prevent ‘winter cost of living crisis’

‘Government’s failure to secure our gas storage has undermined our energy security,’ Sir Keir says

www.independent.co.uk

and March

Keir Starmer says PM’s ‘failed energy policy’ is causing bills to rocket

Labour leader calls for investment in nuclear, renewables and insulation to cut reliance on Russian oil and gas

www.theguardian.com

I am not a fan of his - he is on holiday like Johnson too and thus failing BUT we are mid-term and in reality his fight is not with the Tories its with the r/w press who misreport and misdirect away from the Tories and Labour struggle to get some bandwidth. Labour needs to stop in-fighting and concentrating its time effort and resources on getting a GE campaign together. I'd prefer a new leader but at the moment that is not to be - however again with a new leader in mind its hard for Starmer and Labour to attack when they don't know who to attack yet

Isn't it about attacking the issues of the day and providing a coherent alternative?

As for Labour stopping infighting have you not noticed the MP's being targeted for de-selection?

 

[Postman Pep]

yeah mate 3 days ago Labour were calling for an emergency budget to address the cost of living crisis and got nowhere because the Tories have a huge majority - if you think thats sitting on their hands then thats up to you but I see it as you not keeping up.

No 10’s refusal of emergency budget shows Tories have lost control of economy, says Labour – as it happened

Opposition criticises decision not to make big fiscal interventions in final weeks of Boris Johnson’s premiership

www.theguardian.com

No need for the tribalism it's ok to say they're shit. No need to sound like a rag defending their management structure.

 

[urban genie]

yeah mate 3 days ago Labour were calling for an emergency budget to address the cost of living crisis and got nowhere because the Tories have a huge majority - if you think thats sitting on their hands then thats up to you but I see it as you not keeping up.

No 10’s refusal of emergency budget shows Tories have lost control of economy, says Labour – as it happened

Opposition criticises decision not to make big fiscal interventions in final weeks of Boris Johnson’s premiership

www.theguardian.com

That was rachel reeves who criticised the tories, and said they refused a recall then spent most of her interview talking about the leadership contest, Starmer has not been heard on the subject for a while, there has been no official parliamentry request in writing as far as I know for a recall and it is not a one time thing that needs to be asked, there should be sustained pressure on the government not a few tweets and soundbites.

People are going to be a crisis point very very soon, normal politics is out the window, and all MPs duty would be to be i parliament finding a unilateral solution.

After all if there was a crisis in my workplace we would be all hands on deck and even working days off to sort it, it is only fair to expect the nations political class to do the same amd the opposition leader to lead the call if the PM cannot be arsed

 

[bluethrunthru]

That was rachel reeves who criticised the tories, and said they refused a recall then spent most of her interview talking about the leadership contest, Starmer has not been heard on the subject for a while, there has been no official parliamentry request in writing as far as I know for a recall and it is not a one time thing that needs to be asked, there should be sustained pressure on the government not a few tweets and soundbites.

People are going to be a crisis point very very soon, normal politics is out the window, and all MPs duty would be to be i parliament finding a unilateral solution.

After all if there was a crisis in my workplace we would be all hands on deck and even working days off to sort it, it is only fair to expect the nations political class to do the same amd the opposition leader to lead the call if the PM cannot be arsed

I agree except for one thing - 80 seat majority. Taking your work scenario its having a huge issue that only the CEO can do something about and everyone is looking at the Head of Marketing and saying " Well...?? What you gonna do Bob ?"

 

[Len Rum]

He’s watching the Tories implode all by themselves.

I agree.
But it would be nice to hear what he's got to say on the current energy crisis.