Gas & Electricity

They're not worth it without decent export tariffs or a battery. I've been playing around with the idea of getting an electric car but one that acts as a battery to power the home as well as being a car. Charge it up at night for 7p per Kwh and live off that for the day. I very rarely go on long trips away from home anymore so the car just sits there doing nothing. VTH is the technology that let's you do this and there's only a choice of around 6 cars I think. I've signed up for this trial https://www.indra.co.uk/ If I get selected I'll probably jump on it as I need a new car anyway
If you are home most of the day and I and my wife (works from home), if you can do washing, charging you phones etc during the day I think you can save a pretty penny, like you say the battery comes into play overnight with car charging, however i expect tax on el£tric to go through the roof as more a take up EV ownership and fuel tax plummmets.
 
If you are home most of the day and I and my wife (works from home), if you can do washing, charging you phones etc during the day I think you can save a pretty penny, like you say the battery comes into play overnight with car charging, however i expect tax on el£tric to go through the roof as more a take up EV ownership and fuel tax plummmets.
yep that's the fear for me as well. These overnight cheap rates are going to disappear at some point just a question of when, 5 years maybe
 
I can see a political win/win for government and producers. Shell, BP etc managed to make massive profits at the present prices. If I was them, I'd go to govt and agree to the present price cap, they are still making £bns on. The govt say they have stopped the next rise even though we're still suffering, and hey bingo eveyone is happy and the public breathe a sigh of relief about how bad it could have been.
 
My direct debit just went down after my month experiment of no lights and not leaving anything , bar the sky q box and tv ,plugged in when not in use , the chargers use energy if left plugged in even with no device attached , i can do it living alone so i am lucky in that way , monthly readings of course

i have been using my ceiling fan on the record breaking hot days so it will be interesting to see how much that has used , my shock will not be till i come off the fix in dec , hopefully the four hundred will really help me as a low user ,i am sorry for families that cant use less energy
i'm fucked. apart from the usual shit i have.
electric wheelchair
electric bed
electric ventilator.
electric cough assist machine
electric hydration reservoir
electric hoist
electric armchair
Google nest .

every one in daily use and they simply cannot be turned off.
 
i'm fucked. apart from the usual shit i have.
electric wheelchair
electric bed
electric ventilator.
electric cough assist machine
electric hydration reservoir
electric hoist
electric armchair
Google nest .

every one in daily use and they simply cannot be turned off.

Sorry to hear that Bill.

Tory government have a great track record of looking after the ill and disabled, so I'm sure the extra £150 in September will more than make up for it.
 
Crystal ball mode is fun on Octopus website…

If I pay what I do currently £160pm I’ll be -£8000 come May 23. Even the recommended £460 (not a chance we can afford that) still puts us at -£5000.

So ridiculous that not even getting stressed about it, we’ll only be paying what we can afford.
 
I currently pay £180 a month on a fixed rate which is ending in September

Ovo have offered another fixed at £450 a month yet the variable rate is £225

I am in credit to the tune of £615. I went online to see what I could get back. £75 they offered unless I ring.

In two minds about ringing Monday to get some of that money

Fuck the bills later. Pay what you can as we are not alone in this. Loads will struggle. I not sure there is a lot the energy companies can do. Turn everyone off, I doubt it
 
I currently pay £180 a month on a fixed rate which is ending in September

Ovo have offered another fixed at £450 a month yet the variable rate is £225

I am in credit to the tune of £615. I went online to see what I could get back. £75 they offered unless I ring.

In two minds about ringing Monday to get some of that money

Fuck the bills later. Pay what you can as we are not alone in this. Loads will struggle. I not sure there is a lot the energy companies can do. Turn everyone off, I doubt it
i assume most have a smart meter these days so to turn people off is no big deal and can be done without a visit which is what i expect eon etc will do if the account is not paid, no doubt that first quarter- sept,oct,nov is going to see many in trouble so i expect the end of November mass non payment or partial payment with a repayment plan but this will have an effect in the supply chain, the likes of eon etc may collapse, i raise an eybrow towards the Governments lack of planning which makes me wonder are they draging there heels so they can pick up of whats left and Re-nationalise when the time comes.
take it day by day or week by week whatever suits, i guess i may get november out of the way and thats about it then the bills will be racking up, am i worried no i'm not because i'm not on my own here
 
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I think the smart thing to do is pay what you are currently paying rather than stop paying altogether.
i think most are on Direct Debit so the only controll they have is to cancel the DD,its going to be a shock for them one day when there bank account has been left empty, so what then they cant pay there mortgage or buy food because the gas company got in first, thats the first thing i did was to cancel the DD and would advise that,stay in controll is the first objective, but yes your correct partial payment is better than non payment. i suppose me and a few others on here are the lucky ones, i can rack a debt up with eon and worry about it later but at least il stay warm, now the ones who are not so lucky are the ones with gas cards who will have a choice of stick a tenner on for the night or eat and thats a choice there going to have to make every day for the next 6 months
 
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Have any of you guys got one of these.
Supposed to save the voltage supplied and return back to the grid.
Electricity supplied normally around 240 volts but most electrical items are set at 220 volts so in theory you are drawing an extra 20 volts and wasting it.
Unless you have big inductive loads attached to your supply e.g motors, big transformers, incandescent lighting or lots of fluorescent lighting it will do next to nothing.

It gets complicated explaining why, but it’s to do with reactive power which is what this kit is meant to correct. In most homes, energy consumption is due to resistive loads e.g heating elements (kettles, dryers, ovens etc) which draw what is known as “real power”.

The boxes that they sell like the one you mentioned are in essence just small banks of capacitors which can be switched in to correct the power factor.

Yes they work in some industrial applications but in residential they provide next to no benefit.
 
Amazing how the government were able to source funds quick enough to pay their pals for whopping PPE contracts and apps which didn't work. On top of that they forked out for Furlough payments once they realised their mate's businesses would go under. Now that lower class are suffering they don't want to provide any help. Tories are cunts

In addition to this, £9m of public money was used by that Nonce Prince to pay off one of his victims.
 
Forecast to be £6000 per year next April and all because people didn’t want Corbin to nationalise it. It’s worked out well for the shareholders I suppose…
Jeez some feckers are making a fortune of this.
How much are benefits for a family of say four? Do they even get £6000 a year my mate is signing on at the minute and gets £77 a week. That's only £4004 a year??
What if you get sick? My statutory sick pay would be £98 a week my savings would have to be handed over to pay for light and heat.
People remortgaging the house to keep warm and buy candles is this what it has really come to?
 
Jeez some feckers are making a fortune of this.
How much are benefits for a family of say four? Do they even get £6000 a year my mate is signing on at the minute and gets £77 a week. That's only £4004 a year??
What if you get sick? My statutory sick pay would be £98 a week my savings would have to be handed over to pay for light and heat.
People remortgaging the house to keep warm and buy candles is this what it has really come to?
Sadly, it has.
 
Jeez some feckers are making a fortune of this.
How much are benefits for a family of say four? Do they even get £6000 a year my mate is signing on at the minute and gets £77 a week. That's only £4004 a year??
What if you get sick? My statutory sick pay would be £98 a week my savings would have to be handed over to pay for light and heat.
People remortgaging the house to keep warm and buy candles is this what it has really come to?
not good when you let it sink in,, which is why the government simply have to do something 'they have no choice' i think they will before the shit hits the fan and if not then its candles im afraid, just thinking of booking Tenerife for all January at £50 each way, might as well be over there than here 2 weeks paid leave and 2 weeks unpaid leave
 
i think most are on Direct Debit so the only controll they have is to cancel the DD,its going to be a shock for them one day when there bank account has been left empty, so what then they cant pay there mortgage or buy food because the gas company got in first, thats the first thing i did was to cancel the DD and would advise that,stay in controll is the first objective, but yes your correct partial payment is better than non payment. i suppose me and a few others on here are the lucky ones, i can rack a debt up with eon and worry about it later but at least il stay warm, now the ones who are not so lucky are the ones with gas cards who will have a choice of stick a tenner on for the night or eat and thats a choice there going to have to make every day for the next 6 months
I’m with Octopus. They let the customer decide how much the DD should be.
 

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