Gas & Electricity

[TCIB]

One thing i have learned in this mess is OFGEM have been absolutely despicable in their actions. They are there to protect the consumer however all their actions have been in favour of the energy companies.

I fully understand the governments fears over more companies going bust as they/we are on the hook for the failed energy companies. That could easily be avoided if they had robust standards for who could start such a company.

 

[SJT]

I don’t know if you realise but public sector workers pay tax too.

I do realise that they pay tax back - 100% of public sector salaries IS tax.
private makes - public takes.
put the horse before the cart.

 

[west didsblue]

Let's hope she'll have some **** with at least half a brain cell advising her then!

And let’s hope she’ll listen and not decide she knows better.

 

[M18CTID]

I do realise that they pay tax back - 100% of public sector salaries IS tax.
private makes - public takes.
put the horse before the cart.

You do realise that privatisation of the energy industry is arguably the reason why tens of millions are facing astronomical rises in their gas and electric bills?

Privatisation works in some instances but clearly it's not working for essential utilities

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Is this because you think privatising the rail and energy sectors has so much of a success?

NHS Next? Charge people a grand to see a GP?

Already happening. I know plenty of people (down south) who pay for a private GP.

Even up here, I typically use a GP consultation provided through my work health benefit because I can’t get to see the Dr. at my local practice.

The MO of the government is to typically let a service fail and then point out the failure and push to privatise by telling us how much better things will be….

Rather than try and fix the problems.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You do realise that privatisation of the energy industry is arguably the reason why tens of millions are facing astronomical rises in their gas and electric bills?

Privatisation works in some instances but clearly it's not working for essential utilities

There’s as much choice for customers in the energy sector as there was when it was government owned.

Sadly, some people don’t understand the downsides of the free market. Margins are so tight now with nothing left to cut barring wages, staff and humanity.

 

[SJT]

You do realise that privatisation of the energy industry is arguably the reason why tens of millions are facing astronomical rises in their gas and electric bills?

Privatisation works in some instances but clearly it's not working for essential utilities

I realise that carbon zero and the Ukrainian war is the main reason for price hike - and WE ALL need to pull our belts in - the public sector included. they can not have pay rises, some people are blind to that.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Already happening. I know plenty of people (down south) who pay for a private GP.

Even up here, I typically use a GP consultation provided through my work health benefit because I can’t get to see the Dr. at my local practice.

The MO of the government is to typically let a service fail and then point out the failure and push to privatise by telling us how much better things will be….

Rather than try and fix the problems.

Yeah, which is why I used it as an example.

Hopefully the next government train more doctors and nurses and invest properly in the NHS rather than throwing money at it that their donors can siphon off.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I realise that carbon zero and the Ukrainian war is the main reason for price hike - and WE ALL need to pull our belts in - the public sector included. they can not have pay rises, some people are blind to that.

This doesn’t suggest why France have 4% higher bills and we are about 225% so far.

 

[SJT]

This doesn’t suggest why France have 4% higher bills and we are about 225% so far.

Is this a public sector appreciation society/convention? - GET REAL -no strikes, they bring more misery on the general pop.

 

[west didsblue]

I do realise that they pay tax back - 100% of public sector salaries IS tax.
private makes - public takes.
put the horse before the cart.

You have a very simplistic outlook which is almost totally at odds with reality.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Is this a public sector appreciation society/convention? - GET REAL -no strikes, they bring more misery on the general pop.

Do you understand what empathy is?

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

This doesn’t suggest why France have 4% higher bills and we are about 225% so far.

I believe that some MP’s (Rishi Sunak for one) think we all have pots of money stashed away from lockdown and we can easily afford the rising costs….

 

[west didsblue]

I realise that carbon zero and the Ukrainian war is the main reason for price hike - and WE ALL need to pull our belts in - the public sector included. they can not have pay rises, some people are blind to that.

Why is carbon zero one of the main reasons for the price hike?

The cost of wind, solar and hydroelectric generated electricity is way lower than gas generated electricity.

The reason prices have gone up so much is that the formula for determining the price of electricity uses the most expensive fuel as its baseline, which is currently gas. The whole energy market needs reforming.

Carbon zero is a red herring for the gullible.

 

[GOULDYBOBS]

Do you read the Daily Mail?

 

[SJT]

So this was in 2015 - is this acceptable to you?

Fifty thousand NHS staff earn 'at least £100,000'

There are more than 50,000 people in the NHS who earned more than £100,000 in 2013-14, an investigation by the Taxpayers' Alliance and Daily Mail shows.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[SJT]

Do you read the Daily Mail?

NO - do you work in the public sector?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So this was in 2015 - is this acceptable to you?

Fifty thousand NHS staff earn 'at least £100,000'

There are more than 50,000 people in the NHS who earned more than £100,000 in 2013-14, an investigation by the Taxpayers' Alliance and Daily Mail shows.

www.bbc.co.uk

How many earn that amount in the private sector?

What value do you put on a doctor? More or less than a banker?

 

[SJT]

Do you understand what empathy is?

Yes, but you clearly don’t - I have empathy for the millions of pensioners and single parents who can’t afford the incoming costs, without the naive/uncaring public sector sticking extra tax demands on top - get real.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes, but you clearly don’t - I have empathy for the millions of pensioners and single parents who can’t afford the incoming costs, without the naive/uncaring public sector sticking extra tax demands on top - get real.

These costs have zero effect on the prices to come.

It‘s a similar argument to suggest Nottingham Forest are spending too much. Haven’t they seen that the price of fuel is going up dramatically?

Thats not relevant either.