Gas & Electricity

west didsblue said:
Best decision you ever made. Will save you a fortune.
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Pure luck in timing to be honest, we were just coming to the end of a 3 year fix with them when they sent me an offer via email. We jumped from £76 a month to (now) £130 a month which seemed a huge jump but we'd had the low price for 3 years so seemed fair. We'd be struggling like fuck now, let alone in the near future if it hadn't dropped on us. I do use the comparison sites for everything mind.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
Can people please stop posting things like "My bill was £72 last month". Start quoting in terms of £KWH and how many KWH you're expecting to use. Otherwise it's just nonsense numbers that mean very little to anyone.
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It's not nonsense to me. Though I get what your saying. KWH is the bit that confuses me. Maybe I'm just a bit thick
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
We need to frack out our own gas. Need a political party to get behind fracking and renewable energy and aim to be fully self-sustainable asap. The object being to then nationalise it in its entirety and supply affordable energy to all at cost rates and not spunk billions out to share holders and overpaid chief executives.
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The wind turbines being built and those that have been approved paint a pretty positive picture actually, we're already at 25% of our need (which is a doubling from 6 years ago) with some huge farms coming online over the next few years. The aim is to be around 50% through wind power alone by 2030. Not sure fracking would be quicker than that (in fact The Guardian say we'd only get 1% of our needs). For reference, gas is currently around 33%.
 
Centurions said:
Presuming you're using an online account, Kilo Watts per Hour will be how it's displayed.
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I don’t mean to be pedantic but it’s not kW per hour. It’s kilowatt hours. Kilowatts are already a rate so they are multiplied by a time to give a total quantity of energy used.

A watt is a joule per second. Joules are the international standard for units of energy. A kWh is 3,600,000 Joules.
 
west didsblue said:
I don’t mean to be pedantic but it’s not kW per hour. It’s kilowatt hours. Kilowatts are already a rate so they are multiplied by a time to give a total quantity of energy used.

A watt is a joule per second. Joules are the international standard for units of energy. A kWh is 3,600,000 Joules.
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Love these uncomplicated billing calculations.

It's to confuse the fuck out of us so we just pay up.
 
west didsblue said:
I don’t mean to be pedantic but it’s not kW per hour. It’s kilowatt hours. Kilowatts are already a rate so they are multiplied by a time to give a total quantity of energy used.

A watt is a joule per second. Joules are the international standard for units of energy. A kWh is 3,600,000 Joules.
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Of course it is, my bad. Pedant away bud :)
 
One thing i dont like with edf and that is only billing twice a year , reviewing dd as well, every three months always felt like better control or is it because i am on a fix ? Comes off in dec so soon find out
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
The wind turbines being built and those that have been approved paint a pretty positive picture actually, we're already at 25% of our need (which is a doubling from 6 years ago) with some huge farms coming online over the next few years. The aim is to be around 50% through wind power alone by 2030. Not sure fracking would be quicker than that (in fact The Guardian say we'd only get 1% of our needs). For reference, gas is currently around 33%.
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just to add, with whats going on im sure i can and probably others on here and throughout the country can cut usage down by maybe up to 20% by simply being a little more cautious,if thats the case then those percentage figures you put up will rise
 
kaz7 said:
One thing i dont like with edf and that is only billing twice a year , reviewing dd as well, every three months always felt like better control or is it because i am on a fix ? Comes off in dec so soon find out
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As it goes, British gas have started doing this recently with me, I was previously issued quarterly bills. Not sure why.
 
Blackley_Blue said:
As it goes, British gas have started doing this recently with me, I was previously issued quarterly bills. Not sure why.
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I suspect that we forget how much we are spending and they can make a huge hike twice a year that we are not expecting , must be a reason that benefits them anyways
 
west didsblue said:
That's the price cap figures.
Will be 52p for electricity and 15p for gas (including VAT) in October if the government don't do something.
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I've just fixed today with Octopus @ 71p per kWh on electricity. The prediction I've just read reckons 90p+ per kWh by summer next year so it seemed a good idea to fix even if it means paying more now.

A second reason why is I need access to an EV tariff as we have an electric car coming in Nov. On our current usage they reckon we'll be paying £130pm (ignoring the electric car charging).

On standard variable right now the electric car will cost £30-40 a pop to charge up! If the price cap goes up again (which it will) then it'll be even more. On this tariff it's around a fiver to charge up overnight.
 
Centurions said:
Christ, even your current rates look scary to me, your future ones are the stuff of nightmares.

We fixed for 3 years at the end of last September with EDF at:

Electricity unit rate: 20.05p per kWh/Daily standing charge: 24.87p per day
Gas unit rate: 3.951p per kWh/Daily standing charge: 26.12p per day

Lord knows where it'll be in 2 years if that's the difference after just 11 months.
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wow you're on to a winner here. you might get lucky and miss all this shit
 
inbetween said:
I've just fixed today with Octopus @ 71p per kWh on electricity. The prediction I've just read reckons 90p+ per kWh by summer next year so it seemed a good idea to fix even if it means paying more now.

A second reason why is I need access to an EV tariff as we have an electric car coming in Nov. On our current usage they reckon we'll be paying £130pm (ignoring the electric car charging).

On standard variable right now the electric car will cost £30-40 a pop to charge up! If the price cap goes up again (which it will) then it'll be even more. On this tariff it's around a fiver to charge up overnight.
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you seriously need to go on Octopus Go or another EV overnight charging tariff provider and buy a 9.5kw+ battery instead (roughly £6k-£9k). You'd be paying roughly 7p per KWH to charge your home battery at night and you pretty much get you your money back within 1-2 years. I would do this myself but I'd need an EV first and I hate spending money on cars
 
inbetween said:
I've just fixed today with Octopus @ 71p per kWh on electricity. The prediction I've just read reckons 90p+ per kWh by summer next year so it seemed a good idea to fix even if it means paying more now.

A second reason why is I need access to an EV tariff as we have an electric car coming in Nov. On our current usage they reckon we'll be paying £130pm (ignoring the electric car charging).

On standard variable right now the electric car will cost £30-40 a pop to charge up! If the price cap goes up again (which it will) then it'll be even more. On this tariff it's around a fiver to charge up overnight.
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It will be cheaper to run a petrol car soon!
 
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