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bluemanc16 said:
There were two myths exposed yesterday " Tories are the party of fiscal competence " and " We are all in it together".
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Think those had been fluttering in the wind long before yesterday.

What we discovered yesterday is that we have a Chancellor who has no costed plan but is sure that his plan will work simply because the other plan wasn’t working!
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
my wife was told she had three months to live ....issued with a DS1500 .... and then invited to a work capability assessment .. your worries about the disabled are too late
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Very sorry to hear about your wife.

Hope the DWP are just incompetent rather than deliberately inviting her to an assessment in spite of her situation.
 
Bonfire of the Cabinet Committees: put out on the qt last night (I know, who'd have thought they'd do that type of thing?).
19 committees reduced to 5 - foreign/security; economic; home affairs; climate change; parliamentary business/legislation.

So no more National Security Committee with actual security people like spy chiefs/armed forces. Instead it's Truss, Kwarteng (Chancellor), Braverman (Home), Tugendhat (Security), Zahawi (um - Chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster/Equalities/Intergovernment Relations), Coffey (Dep PM), Wallace (Defence), Cleverley (Foreign) Ellis (AG)
What's the point of that then?

Oh, and the previous National Security Advisor has been booted (former top civil servant in the MoD, well, he was far far too woke), and replaced with a former ambassador (once rep to the EU security committee and Brexit negotiator).

The minister for climate isn't actually on the Climate Change committee. Um....

Expectations are that the Foreign/Security Committee is now so broad and includes so much that it won't achieve anything apart from talk.

 
west didsblue said:
If the policy was sound the pound wouldn’t be collapsing especially with interest rates going up. The pound collapsing with the backdrop of higher interest rates is a sure fire indication that huge tax cuts for the very rich funded by massive borrowing is a really bad idea, and any marginal gains of the weak pound helping exports or in encouraging overseas investment are blown out of the water by excessive inflation and the sanctions we have imposed on ourselves due to our catastrophic implementation of Brexit.

Making a big deal of the benefits of a weak pound in these circumstances is like saying the lifeboats did a decent job on the Titanic even though the ship still sank.
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Merited a double like!
 
mexico1970 said:
It might not wash with you but you don't count apart from having an opinion, it's the electorate that counts. I can't wait for the end of Tory rule and my point still stands if the Labour party would have supported Brexit (Rightly or wrongly) they would IMO have won the last GE.

They will win the next one IMO and by a considerable margin. I will vote for them as they stand now.
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So you think Labour should have supported Brexit despite knowing it was hugely damaging to the UK economy.

That's very Trussish. Sorry, Trussitry.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I saw this mentioned on the BBC last night too:

"these plans were described as a “fiscal event” rather than a budget, allowing the government to avoid presenting any detailed fiscal or economic projections"
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Maybe it means they can't call the bill a finance bill so the Lords aren't obliged to let it go through.
 
Gabriel said:
Think those had been fluttering in the wind long before yesterday.

What we discovered yesterday is that we have a Chancellor who has no costed plan but is sure that his plan will work simply because the other plan wasn’t working!
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He isn't that sure as he has described it as a bet
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Bonfire of the Cabinet Committees: put out on the qt last night (I know, who'd have thought they'd do that type of thing?).
19 committees reduced to 5 - foreign/security; economic; home affairs; climate change; parliamentary business/legislation.

So no more National Security Committee with actual security people like spy chiefs/armed forces. Instead it's Truss, Kwarteng (Chancellor), Braverman (Home), Tugendhat (Security), Zahawi (um - Chancellor of Duchy of Lancaster/Equalities/Intergovernment Relations), Coffey (Dep PM), Wallace (Defence), Cleverley (Foreign) Ellis (AG)
What's the point of that then?

Oh, and the previous National Security Advisor has been booted (former top civil servant in the MoD, well, he was far far too woke), and replaced with a former ambassador (once rep to the EU security committee and Brexit negotiator).

The minister for climate isn't actually on the Climate Change committee. Um....

Expectations are that the Foreign/Security Committee is now so broad and includes so much that it won't achieve anything apart from talk.

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It will just hasten their own demise - good
 
bluethrunthru said:
He isn't that sure as he has described it as a bet
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BBC’s Chris Mason put it to him that it was a gamble. He insisted it wasn’t and that the real gamble was instead continuing down the current path that evidently wasn’t working. Promised Parliament that it would have his sum book with his working outs by Christmas…
 
I see the likely winners of the Italian election, a fascist group, are planning to copy Truss's tax reforms.
 
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